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oncebittentwiceshy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Strad...silver finish...I accidentally (A while back) used the wrong kindof cloth to clean it off and then ther was this black residue on it...I go tmost of it off...and I rub it down with a new silver cloth...the question is...this stuff keeps coming back...is it in my skin oil? can I wash the silver cloths? Should I use it sparringly and use something else that is washable in the meantime between the "polishings" ? Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect it's just tarnish. A good silver polish should take it right off.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarnish (usually from oxidation, sometimes from other chemical exposure, such as sulphur) on silver horns in our atmosphere will be black. That's why you use the polish-embedded cloth or some other product. It's perfectly normal and can be slowed by protecting a horn in storage in a vacuum-sealed bag. It can be accelerated by wrapping rubberbands around your horn ...... or by putting a scrambled egg in your case.

You probably did not need to know all that.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a polish called Tarnishield by 3M that's excellent at taking the tarnish off AND makes the silver a little more resistant to future tarnish.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you keep using the silver cloth - you will probably keep getting the black

Take a soft cotton cloth and you can wipe it off and buff it without generating any more black residue.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every once in a while...if I were to use a polish (real one) then would the soft cotton cloth cause any scrathes? I have swirls..but I expect those you know...just wondering. Once a month you think when I give it a bath a good time?
Thank you for your replies...they were quick
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for in between I really like those microfiber cloths. to keep the surface clean form body oils smudges etc

as for scratching shouldn't be a problem if the cloth is clean - I would n't bear down on the metal real hard.

a light polishing every month when the horn is cleaned sounds like a good care plan to me.

ultimatlely my concern is more for the inside of the horn. Funny to me to see people polishing every finger print off the horn when the leadpipe is jammed with crud .
I prefer cleaning my leadpipe and tuning slide more often. at least weekly.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On 2004-02-13 12:32, pair of kings wrote:
for in between I really like those microfiber cloths. to keep the surface clean form body oils smudges etc.


I agree with pair of kings. I have a silver horn as a demo at the moment. I wipe it down with a Googalies Microfiber Cloth. IMO, one of the best made, especially for cleaning instruments. It keeps the polishing to a minimum while keep the horn nice and shiny!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll ditto the Tarneshield polish. If I keep the horn washed down and wiped off frequently I can go at least a year before I have to repolish. Good stuff!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rarely need to polish my silver horns when I keep them in a tarnish bag.
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