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ghelbig Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 May 2011 Posts: 908 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 11:10 am Post subject: Can scarring be removed? |
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I'm not 100% happy with the repair to the bell of this horn. It was done before I bought it, and I knew it had been repaired, so no foul there.
Turns out that I really like the horn, and want to make it look better.
Is there a process to remove the scarring from the repair? Who is good at this sort of thing?
Thanks,
Gary.
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trumpetguy27 Veteran Member
Joined: 02 Aug 2011 Posts: 255 Location: Westminster Maryland
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 11:25 am Post subject: |
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That actually looks like a fairly decent repair from major damage... my guess is that to make it significantly better you will need to have the lacquer removed/redone as the lines are now raw brass. Looks like you are in the right location however because Mike Del Quadro is the best in the biz with this kind of stuff and he is in Las Vegas. Look him up on Facebook or dqscustomshop.com. _________________ Adams Gold Brass/Nickel Flugel
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ghelbig Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 May 2011 Posts: 908 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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trumpetguy27 wrote: | That actually looks like a fairly decent repair from major damage... my guess is that to make it significantly better you will need to have the lacquer removed/redone as the lines are now raw brass. Looks like you are in the right location however because Mike Del Quadro is the best in the biz with this kind of stuff and he is in Las Vegas. Look him up on Facebook or dqscustomshop.com. |
The scars are from work hardening and are a different color - there isn't a lot of lacquer on the bell. In those spots the metal seems thinner, and they're right where the bell is seamed. The bell does seem to restored to the correct shape.
Del Quadro isn't exactly in the area - Las Vegas is a 7 hour drive. There's only one local repair tech, and he specializes in clarinets...
Thanks!
Gary. |
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ResilienceOils Regular Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2018 Posts: 11 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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It looks like there are lines in the bell that you can see from the transition of light. The damage that was done is actually the brass pulling which creates a scar yes. The previous work is questionable because the pressure used to fix the damage actually made more damage running up the bell. All of this can be fixed...the bell might sound a little different in the end but could be for the better as there is tension in the metal right now. I work at B.A.C. in Kansas City and this is a pretty standard job.
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VetPsychWars Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 7196 Location: Greenfield WI
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Send it to one of the world-class techs and they'll take care of it. In fact, if you like the horn that much, get the full restoration. It's expensive, over a thousand by now from Charlie Melk, but totally worth it if you're keeping the horn for life.
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Richard III Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 5:35 am Post subject: |
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ghelbig Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 May 2011 Posts: 908 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Thanks. Looks to be more interesting than the local shop; I've added visiting there to my to-do list.
I particularly like their "take your clarinets somewhere else" attitude.
Gary. |
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philosofriend Veteran Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 131 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:09 am Post subject: |
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You need an experienced technician. I used to think I could make those better till I realized that some of the metal was stretched and I had no technique to shrink it. No amount of pushing can fix it.
Don't let someone like me touch your horn. |
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blbaumgarn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Jul 2017 Posts: 705
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:53 pm Post subject: can scarring be removed? |
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I think the guy that suggested a complete restoration was spot on if you love the trumpet that much. Bachs are $3000-3500, Kanstul at least that. A grand to have the horn be exactly like you want sounds reasonable in view of new prices. There are some really reputable people on here that will fix it right up for you. |
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