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BuddyRogersMusic New Member
Joined: 03 Aug 2017 Posts: 6 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:27 am Post subject: Martin Committee |
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Browsing for a new horn and I have come across a bunch of Martin Committee trumpets. Anyone have any positive/negative experiences with the line of horns? I am gonna be trying a few out next week. |
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Dennis78 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Feb 2015 Posts: 673 Location: Cincinnati
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:35 am Post subject: |
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They’re supposedly the Holy Grail of trumpets. I’ve tried 2 and they are nice but I’m not good enough to really appreciate what they can do _________________ a few different ones |
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Manuel de los Campos Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 672 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:09 am Post subject: |
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It all depends on what you gonna do with the instrument. The ones I tried where fine instruments but not suitalble for every job; nice for solo jazz work but I would not put one in action in a symphonic orchestra.
If you are looking for a versitile instrument I'd rather go for a Vincent Bach 180-37 or an imitation of that horn like for example the Yamaha Xeno, Getzen 900 Protheus or such.
Chet Baker sounded great on a Committee as well on a Bach 180-37, go figure _________________ Technology alone is a poor substitute for experience. (Richard Sachs) |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9193 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Mine is both an excellent combo and lead horn. I'm not sure all are that versatile, but mine is. The slotting is not as defined as my Benge. For players who want more pitch flexibility, it's great. If you wand locked-in pitch, I suggest trying out some other horns.
IMO, sound is flexible. By contrast, Severinsens I've had had a more precise, inherent sound to them, although that can be moderated somewhat by mouthpiece size, make and bore. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"Well, even if I could play like Wynton, I wouldn't play like Wynton." Chet Baker
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Dr. Manhattan Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Jul 2016 Posts: 102 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:01 am Post subject: Martin Committee |
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Martin Committees are fine horns. I feel at home on mine.
While some of the Committees up for sale will need some work, I would not shy away from buying one (that needs a work) and then sending it to one of the very talented Brass repairmen to refurbish. I picked up an LB Committee in really sad shape and Landress Brass brought it back to life for a very very reasonable price.
I would also recommend trying before buying as you may find the Committee does not suit you. Let us know what you end up getting.... _________________ Several Trumpets and Flugelhorns!
Trying to thin the small herd!! |
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shofarguy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 7016 Location: AZ
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Martin Committee |
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BuddyRogersMusic wrote: | Browsing for a new horn and I have come across a bunch of Martin Committee trumpets. Anyone have any positive/negative experiences with the line of horns? I am gonna be trying a few out next week. |
I've been able to briefly try a medium bore. It was nice and had a nice warm sound that was very pleasing. It had more of a solo or section (3rd or 4th book) sound, but not a lead sound.
I've had the chance to try out a large bore Deluxe of 1956 vintage. It was a more normal and versatile trumpet, but still had a distinctive vintage sound to it. Different from the medium bore sound.
Both Martins require that the player have a good sense of pitch and know how to place notes properly. They like to play jazz.
Nothing looks as sexy as a 1940s - 1950s Committee.
The Kanstul 1603 and 1603+ play and sound like the large bore Martin I sampled. Wallace Roney told me, "It IS a Martin Committee." They are new and you can configure them the way you want. Just sayin'. _________________ Brian A. Douglas
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Bb Trumpet in copper
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Flugelhorn in copper
There is one reason that I practice: to be ready at the downbeat when the final trumpet sounds. |
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Speed Veteran Member
Joined: 13 May 2015 Posts: 295 Location: Mississippi
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:19 am Post subject: |
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I played three or four - all owned by the same collector - before buying medium bore mid-1950s Committee. It was the only non-Deluxe in the bunch, and while the cosmetics of the Deluxe models are nice, I preferred the sound of the non-Deluxe. Obviously, that is purely a matter of personal preference.
Considering that most of them are going to be 60 or more years old, it's reasonable to anticipate some repair work. Mine needed a valve job.
I have yet to run into a large bore model, but I'd love to try one - or be able to AFFORD one!
Take care,
Marc Speed |
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Dr. Manhattan Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Jul 2016 Posts: 102 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:34 am Post subject: Martin Committee |
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Brian brings up a good point about also considering the Kanstul 1603.
I have yet to try one but really want to!
When I saw Wallace Roney during the pre-concert meet and greet at Yoshi's in Oakland Mr. Roney said, "It's a Committee and it is brand new!" _________________ Several Trumpets and Flugelhorns!
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EdMann Heavyweight Member
Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 2484 Location: The Big Valley
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:50 am Post subject: |
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If you're looking for a Committee, then get that. The brass is unique, the design was ideal. Intonation, regardless what's said around here, is excellent. I've owned a non-deluxe #2 from 1949, and a '39 Handcraft Committee, which another animal altogether. ANIMAL is the key word. That horn is ridiculous.
A certain well-known "incredible" lead player declared my '49 Committee to be as good a lead horn as anything I had in the arsenal. It was marketed as such back in the day, but smokey and jazzy, sure.
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sounds7 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 635 Location: New Orleans
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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I have only ever owned one and it is perfect in every respect. _________________ 47 Martin Committee #3
Buescher lightweight 400 228
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Jim Galakti Regular Member
Joined: 07 May 2018 Posts: 27
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: Martin Committee |
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BuddyRogersMusic wrote: | Browsing for a new horn and I have come across a bunch of Martin Committee trumpets. Anyone have any positive/negative experiences with the line of horns? I am gonna be trying a few out next week. |
I play alot of trumpets...Best Trumpet - Martin Committee _________________ Martin Committee Red Deluxe
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 2017 Location: WI
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Martin Committee |
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BuddyRogersMusic wrote: | Browsing for a new horn and I have come across a bunch of Martin Committee trumpets. Anyone have any positive/negative experiences with the line of horns? I am gonna be trying a few out next week. |
When you say "come across a bunch", do you mean a lot of separate ads or auctions for Committees, or a group of Committees that are all in the same place (like unsold stock in the inventory of a music store that closed)?
Are the horns you are looking at ones from the "classic era" (late 40's to early 60's), or the ones made by LeBlanc in Kenosha after they bought the Martin name in 1971?
I ask only because the LeBlanc Martins (models T3460/T3465), while nice horns, are very different from the ones the other folks on this thread are talking about (except for Jim Galakti -- from his signature and website, I can see that he plays a LeBlanc Committee). |
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obedmeister Regular Member
Joined: 02 Sep 2015 Posts: 16 Location: Miami and Chicago- Its complicated.
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:07 pm Post subject: Martin Committee |
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Great sound on the these horns, but I agree with many of the suggestions listed. Try it first and see if it meets your needs. I would not purchase a deluxe model. They don't really have that sweet sound IMHO. If you have the opportunity for a Large Bore, I wouldn't hesitate to get it. I have only tried the medium bores and loved them. My top choice is the Martin Handcraft Committee, second regular non-deluxe committee, and to my surprise, I am currently very happy with a Martin Handcraft Imperial. I'm really surprised at how versatile it is. As far as investment, just buy all that you can afford. You are sure to some profit. Enjoy!! _________________ Schilke X3 1983
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Dr. Manhattan Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Jul 2016 Posts: 102 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:57 pm Post subject: Martin Committee |
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I have both, an LB Deluxe model (1956) and an LB brass model with bronze bell (1962) and both sound and play great. Both can light up when needed as well as darken or sound sweet like honey butter melting in freshly baked corn bread (now I am hungry again!). Your sound concept is in your head. Chet always sounds like Chet whether he played a Bach, Martin, or.............
Also, there is a Youtube of Arturo playing (Arturo Sandoval Master Class Video #2 - Listening) and he can sound dark, bright, fluffy, soft, even like a flugelhorn, all on the same horn AND mouthpiece.
So......
If you come across a horn you really like, regardless of all brass or nickel slides, lacquered or raw brass, even silver plated, I say buy it if you like how you sound on it. _________________ Several Trumpets and Flugelhorns!
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Retlaw Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3263 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:19 am Post subject: |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw_iuEQD-Fc
I have had both the medium and large bore Committees and loved them but got a seriously good return so I sold them.
I now play a Lawler C7 which is modelled on the Martin Committee ...the similarity is uncanny..I love the sound...I have never and will never be a lead player.
Best wishes in your hunt for a "special" horn. _________________ "Amazing how many people listen with their eyes."
"Life is short....play nice." |
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ERoscio Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:04 am Post subject: |
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hi guys, i have a martin committee(1948). above the serial number is an A. what does it mean? thanks |
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SilverSpunk Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:19 am Post subject: |
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I'm no stranger to Committees, I've played Martins many years ago and I have now decided to get back to my hobby after a long hiatus.
The combination with the bell flare, step bore design and lighter bracing make give the post war Committees the velvet and compact sound that they're known for. Looser slotting with the ease to "bend" notes was what most jazz trumpet players in the 50s had caught on with and favored.
Many notable Jazz trumpet players have played Committees at least once in their careers (some played them for the majority of their career.
Lee Morgan (played an up-tilted bell Committee that Dizzy gifted him on Coltrane's Blue Train album), Kenny Dorham, Dizzy Gillespie (created the up-tilted bell trend), Miles Davis (played M bore and L bore Committees), Fats Navarro, Chet Baker and more played post war Committees.
Now the WW2 era Handcraft Committee trumpets are a similar but different horn, much rarer because they were only produced from the late 30s up until about 1944. They are more like Handcraft Imperials, some might say a bit more versatile than the post war Committees but do not have the same sound and loose slotting that is associated with the later Committees. |
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SilverSpunk Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:24 am Post subject: |
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ERoscio wrote: | hi guys, i have a martin committee(1948). above the serial number is an A. what does it mean? thanks |
I don't recall ever seeing a letter "A" above the serial number before, could you post a link to the pic or post the pic here?
Does it mean it is in the key of "A" ? haha |
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Wondra Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:10 am Post subject: |
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The "A" means Artist Model. These were build for Players who endorsed Martin trumpets. _________________ Dave Wondra
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:28 am Post subject: |
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SilverSpunk wrote: | The combination with the bell flare, step bore design and lighter bracing make give the post war Committees the velvet and compact sound that they're known for. |
Committee a step bore? _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"Well, even if I could play like Wynton, I wouldn't play like Wynton." Chet Baker
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