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ltkije1966 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 1229 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:46 pm Post subject: Shoulder Injury |
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I dislocated my right shoulder. Does anybody have any experience or recommendations they might share? Has anybody been through this before? _________________ Scott Kuehn |
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Andy Del Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 2665 Location: sunny Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Yes. I dislocated my left shoulder driving to a masterclass to be held by Phil Smith no less. Needless to say, I wasn't playing...
You would have had some medical treatment, and a referral to a specialist - most likely an orthopaedic surgeon. There needs to be a choice is there are torn tendons or ligaments - does it need a surgical repair? that will depend on exactly what is damaged.
In my case, the butcher I as referred to acted like such an ass I got very suspicious (as a 20 year old, try arguing with a medical specialist!) and sought another opinion, this time from a respected physiotherapist. His advice was exercises, and some weight training.
34 years later, my shoulder has popped out half a dozen times and I can reduce it myself. Hurts like a bugger, but I live with it no problems.
EVERYONE is different, so information, advice and then a decision needs to happen. I have friends who needed surgical procedures, and they to are happy. But they were in a different situation.
cheers
Andy _________________ so many horns, so few good notes... |
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Comeback Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Jun 2011 Posts: 1143
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:41 am Post subject: |
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I have had right shoulder issues for decades and sometimes experience discouraging discomfort when playing trumpet. When this occurs, switching to cornet provides enough relief for me to continue playing. Little things can make a difference. For me, just getting my right hand a little closer to my face, thus changing the angles in my right arm, helps.
Jim |
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boog Veteran Member
Joined: 04 Jun 2014 Posts: 247
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:21 am Post subject: |
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My shoulder discomfort came from Bursitis developed by decades of using my arms to direct student ensembles in schools, all day long, in some situations. Trumpet playing added to the damage.
Now, at 70, I try to keep my arms and upper body in shape with weight training. Not that I am trying to appear in Mr. Olympia, but for daily comfort and mobility. I also strive to keep my weight down to somewhere around recommended for my height and age. I try to walk at least 2 miles a day, weather permitting. Had I done these things when younger, I would not be struggling with playing issues such as many my age have.
I still direct a band and play trumpet, cornet, euphonium, bass guitar, and six string guitar. Piano remains a mystery to me as it has been since I was a kid..
Point for you younger folks: physical fitness is not just cosmetic. You might live longer than you think!
As the old saying goes, "If I had known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself". |
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ltkije1966 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 1229 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the responses. I tried the cornet, which was much more comfortable. I don’t think I can do it for more than an hour.
I’m going to look at some way to play left handed. _________________ Scott Kuehn |
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cbtj51 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2015 Posts: 725 Location: SE US
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:06 am Post subject: |
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I have been very physically active most of my life. I started experiencing pain in my right shoulder after holding my trumpet and playing Congas for long periods when I was playing several times per week in a Top 40 band in the 90s. In early 2002, I lifted a very heavy refrigerator in a very wrong way and damaged my right Rotator Cuff badly. During the required Surgery, a benign cyst was uncovered in my shoulder joint and removed at the same time. Recovery with intense Physical Therapy took several months, but the planned exercises strengthened both of my arms and upper body so well that I experienced no pain for many years.
My previous level of physical activity is no longer possible, especially since having a pretty intense lower back surgery in 2007, but I still do as much as I can. Now, many years later, I am beginning to experience similar pain in my left shoulder. I am a lifelong left side sleeper and I am certain that adds to the pressure on my left side. As an alternate to a possible surgical procedure, I am taking advantage of my Trumpet and Flugelhorn stands at every opportunity, especially during long performances with lots of rests and tacits. I try to use my lightweight horns at every opportunity as well, and this seems to help. Avoiding any unneccessary stress on my left shoulder has all but eliminated the discomfort. Can't seem to eliminate my sleeping habits though and there are many current thinking patterns as to the health benefits of left side sleeping, so that will probably continue to add some stress on that shoulder.
As many others have stated, take care of your body as much as you can because it will eventually begin to wear out. Every mighty oak will one day fall!
Best wishes,
Mike _________________ '71 LA Benge 5X Bb
'72 LA Benge D/Eb
'76 Bach CL 229/25A C
‘92 Bach 37 Bb
'98 Getzen 895S Flugelhorn
'00 Bach 184 Cornet
'02 Yamaha 8335RGS
'16 Bach NY 7
'16 XO 1700RS Piccolo
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Bickz71 New Member
Joined: 18 Aug 2018 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:11 am Post subject: |
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I know it's difficult and hard to get out of pain. My friend is suffering from tuberculosis. Cannot see her in pain and want her to recover as soon as possible. Taking treatment from private health care in out city. They are quite understanding and helpful. Providing medications and gels after acute observance. |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8914 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:00 am Post subject: |
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No experience with dislocation but I did suffer an acute and debilitating episode of frozen shoulder, which I'd never even heard of until I was diagnosed with it. In my case, a cortisone shot gave me just enough relief to undergo many weeks of painful physical therapy. While I got through it and recovered most of my range of motion, I certainly hope your recovery isn't quite as trying. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
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farnhamjack5 New Member
Joined: 02 Sep 2018 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Try doing arm circles before practicing to prevent something like this. |
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