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ohnecael
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 Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:37 pm Post subject: Things to focus on |
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| Right now im between my sessions of having a private teacher and right now while im in my limbo period of a few months, anything that i can still focus on while im not reciving professional instruction? Any common patterns you see in your students (that are HS age) that are a reoccuring problem that i can use to put inside my own playing? |
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Denny Schreffler
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:09 pm Post subject: WindWorks, Mystery to Mastery |
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| ohnecael wrote: | | Right now im between my sessions of having a private teacher and right now while im in my limbo period of a few months, anything that i can still focus on while im not reciving professional instruction? Any common patterns you see in your students (that are HS age) that are a reoccuring problem that i can use to put inside my own playing? |
Check out the free section of Mystery to Mastery (WindWorks) with Greg Spence.
It will give you a lot of good, basic direction, and lots to work with. Nothing that should conflict with the approach/philosophy of most teachers.
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Andy Del
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Things to focus on |
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| ohnecael wrote: | | Any common patterns you see in your students (that are HS age) that are a reoccuring problem that i can use to put inside my own playing? |
Yes.
There is the lack of patience. Practice takes time and many teens simply don't put enough time in. you can 't improve something if it is played once, incorrectly, every few days.
There is a lack of thought when practicing towards long term goals. Specific focus on short term goals which can be achieved in a single or few sessions. By just filling in time, most make little to no progress.
Listening. Most teens need to learn to listen to themselves, their teachers etc. If they don't or cant hear what they sound like, and if the notes and rhythms are even correct, progress is not going to occur.
Repetition. Many will simply not work enough on a given challenge. Stick at it, and keep trying, with all of the above, seems to be getting rarer and rarer.
cheers
Andy
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Denny Schreffler
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Things to focus on |
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| Andy Del wrote: | | ohnecael wrote: | | Any common patterns you see in your students (that are HS age) that are a reoccuring problem that i can use to put inside my own playing? |
Yes.
There is the lack of patience. Practice takes time and many teens simply don't put enough time in. you can 't improve something if it is played once, incorrectly, every few days.
There is a lack of thought when practicing towards long term goals. Specific focus on short term goals which can be achieved in a single or few sessions. By just filling in time, most make little to no progress.
Listening. Most teens need to learn to listen to themselves, their teachers etc. If they don't or cant hear what they sound like, and if the notes and rhythms are even correct, progress is not going to occur.
Repetition. Many will simply not work enough on a given challenge. Stick at it, and keep trying, with all of the above, seems to be getting rarer and rarer.
cheers
Andy |
100%
If students -- young and old -- would grasp what you've written, their progress would be marked.
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Billy B
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Things to focus on |
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| Andy Del wrote: | | ohnecael wrote: | | Any common patterns you see in your students (that are HS age) that are a reoccuring problem that i can use to put inside my own playing? |
Yes.
There is the lack of patience. Practice takes time and many teens simply don't put enough time in. you can 't improve something if it is played once, incorrectly, every few days.
There is a lack of thought when practicing towards long term goals. Specific focus on short term goals which can be achieved in a single or few sessions. By just filling in time, most make little to no progress.
Listening. Most teens need to learn to listen to themselves, their teachers etc. If they don't or cant hear what they sound like, and if the notes and rhythms are even correct, progress is not going to occur.
Repetition. Many will simply not work enough on a given challenge. Stick at it, and keep trying, with all of the above, seems to be getting rarer and rarer.
cheers
Andy |
Nailed it!
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Brad361
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Things to focus on |
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| Andy Del wrote: | | ohnecael wrote: | | Any common patterns you see in your students (that are HS age) that are a reoccuring problem that i can use to put inside my own playing? |
Yes.
There is the lack of patience. Practice takes time and many teens simply don't put enough time in. you can 't improve something if it is played once, incorrectly, every few days.
There is a lack of thought when practicing towards long term goals. Specific focus on short term goals which can be achieved in a single or few sessions. By just filling in time, most make little to no progress.
Listening. Most teens need to learn to listen to themselves, their teachers etc. If they don't or cant hear what they sound like, and if the notes and rhythms are even correct, progress is not going to occur.
Repetition. Many will simply not work enough on a given challenge. Stick at it, and keep trying, with all of the above, seems to be getting rarer and rarer.
cheers
Andy |
This, and multiply it by 2-3 for middle school kids.
I think it’s even more pronounced today than it was years (30 or more) ago; kids today are used to instant (and sometimes unearned) gratification.
The above being said, it IS the teacher’s job to motivate students to correct the above problems, but when the parents at home don’t reinforce what’s needed (some do, but many don’t), it’s a difficult situation.
Brad
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Andy Del
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Things to focus on |
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| Brad361 wrote: |
The above being said, it IS the teacher’s job to motivate students to correct the above problems, but when the parents at home don’t reinforce what’s needed (some do, but many don’t), it’s a difficult situation.
Brad |
OT add onto Brad's comments, it is also the job of the teacher to encourage the parents to get involved. Even simple phone calls to let them know the good (we hope) and the need for some behaviour modification (usually) does wonders.
In our school system, private instrumental lessons, during school time is the norm. (it's a large part of my gig) We recently abolished formal reports for instrumental lessons. It wasn't my decision, and like most I was of a mind third was a negative move.
But, our HOD suggested we use this as the opportunity to talk to parents: face to face, on the phone, or my email. Amazingly, this is working for quite a few of my less than totally enthusiastic students! I have seen the light! 
But in all seriousness, when kids have no direction, and are going to spend a period of time without any instruction, it is the teacher's responsibility to provide some, even just a list of things to work on...
cheers
Andy
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