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moley771 New Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2018 Posts: 3 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:26 pm Post subject: Trumpet has a big dent in tubing, is it still functional? |
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Hello
I got this trumpet many years ago and finally decided to take it apart, clean it and learn how to play.
After taking it apart I discovered that there is a dent in the tubing at the back of the trumpet.
Before I go through the hassle of cleaning it I was wondering if it can still be played or if I will have to pay for it to be fixed.
I got it for free and I understand that it is not an expensive trumpet so if I have to pay for it to be fixed I may as well just buy a new trumpet.
This is a link to a few pictures of the trumpet.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/157606770@N07/
Thank you
Dylan _________________ Well.... |
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jimspeedjae Veteran Member
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Walter Bone Regular Member
Joined: 15 Aug 2018 Posts: 36 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:34 am Post subject: |
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Well it looks deep enough to affect playing, how much is matter of debate.
It's not an expensive repair, it just requires a specialised tool. Just make it clear you don't want a perfectly smooth surface nor a laquer patching (laquer in the repaired area won't look nice as in the rest of the trumpet). A 15 minutes job really, an honest repairman will charge way less that the cost of the cheapest chinese trumpet on the market. |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 7080 Location: Houston, TX.
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Should not be an expensive fix. Without knowing the make of the horn, it’s probably worth fixing. That’s a significant dent, hard to say how much it might affect how the horn plays. DON’T replace it with an ebay 119.00 (brand new) horn, those are generally junk.
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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moley771 New Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2018 Posts: 3 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Wow, thank you for all of the responses. I will email the closest ones to me and probably just get it cleaned and serviced(?) by them too. Might as well. Was going to buy a Chinese made one too, so thanks for telling me that.
This is a Corton 80, made in Czechoslovakia.
I assume it is better than a Chinese made one.
Thanks again.
Dylan _________________ Well.... |
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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 1518 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:43 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't go too nuts on taking apart and cleaning the horn just yet either. Without experience things might get mixed up and jammed into the wrong places. Most of the crud, if any, will be in the leadpipe*, which is the first tube that the mouthpiece goes into. If you can get the main tuning slide out, do so and look through the pipe.
*some families have been torn apart over whether it is called leadpipe, leaderpipe, or mouthpipe. _________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
Bach 7C mouthpiece
I'm looking for a Connstellation 5C-N or 5B-N mouthpiece
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The Coady Strengthening Exercises: http://coady.coolwarm.com |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Looks like Corton may have some sort of relationship with Amati, which is also Czech. I have one I bought long ago just as a leave-it-out-on-a-stand-and-don’t-worry-about-horn, it’s not quite awful, but close. Better than some of the ebay Chinese and Pakistani junk though.
Regarding all the responses you’re getting, hey, this is Trumpet Geek Central, ask something and you’ll definitely get responses....whether you like them or not!😉😉
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
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moley771 New Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2018 Posts: 3 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:32 am Post subject: |
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With regards to not going too crazy and taking it apart, that ship has unfortunately sailed haha.
Taken many photos though so should be OK putting stuff back. _________________ Well.... |
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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 1518 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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It should go back together fine. It's pretty straightforward. There was once a trumpet on Ebay that had the slides in all the wrong places. Obviously only one arm of each crook was in because the other didn't match up. And recently, there was a trumpet up for sale that had the stem of a harmon mute taped to the leadpipe, because the seller thought it was a mouthpiece.
Anyway you've come to the right place for help, for the most part. There may be the occasional combustive tangents as well, but you get what you pay for _________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
Bach 7C mouthpiece
I'm looking for a Connstellation 5C-N or 5B-N mouthpiece
www.jazzscales.org
The Coady Strengthening Exercises: http://coady.coolwarm.com |
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trumpetman146 New Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:39 am Post subject: |
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It certainly will effect the playing of the instrument. Depending on your level of playing and what you are using it for, it may be fine to use or you may need to get it fixed. |
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