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Kubelik81 New Member
Joined: 01 May 2018 Posts: 9 Location: Spain
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:17 am Post subject: Bach Mercedes Mt Vernon (fabric card) |
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Hi all
I need help.
I bought a Mercedes Bach Mt Vernon and I would like to know the factory specifications of the horn (factory card)
Where can I get it? Is there any contact for this?
Thanks _________________ 39F.Besson Breveté
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56Olds Super
56Flugelhorn Martin Imperial#3
57Selmer Deposé 23A
58Bach Mercedes Mt Vernon
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iiipopes Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:48 am Post subject: |
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If the Cyborg still has Mercedes cards as well as Strad cards:
https://www.bachloyalist.com/vincent-bach-shop-cards/ _________________ King Super 20 Trumpet; Sov 921 Cornet
Bach cornet modded to be a 181L clone
Couesnon Flugelhorn and C trumpet |
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Kubelik81 New Member
Joined: 01 May 2018 Posts: 9 Location: Spain
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info
Any email where you can check this ??? _________________ 39F.Besson Breveté
46Blessing Super Artist
50Martin Committee#2
56Olds Super
56Flugelhorn Martin Imperial#3
57Selmer Deposé 23A
58Bach Mercedes Mt Vernon
62Cornet Martin Committee#2
63Selmer k-Mod 24B Lightweight
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Don Herman rev2 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 8951 Location: Monument, CO
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:29 am Post subject: |
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A search can do wonders.
From the linked site:
Quote: | If you contact Conn-Selmer customer service in Elkhart, IN and politely request a copy of the shop card they are most often willing to fax, email to you.
Conn Selmer
600 Industrial Pkwy
Elkhart, IN
(574) 522-1675
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You could look at the site or check the Conn-Selmer site for contact info and ask them to email you info. _________________ "After silence, that which best expresses the inexpressible, is music" - Aldous Huxley |
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Rompson Regular Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:26 am Post subject: |
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It’s probably going to wind up being .453 medium bore with either a 37 or 38 bell. But you never know, Bach did some crazy stuff. |
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rockford Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Rompson wrote: | It’s probably going to wind up being .453 medium bore with either a 37 or 38 bell. But you never know, Bach did some crazy stuff. | That’s correct. Especially about the crazy stuff. Check out the Mercedes article at Vincentbachsworld.com for more details. The shop card and a visual inspection is really the only way to know how your instrument was configured when it left the factory. _________________ Bill Siegfried
NY/Mt. Vernon Bach trumpets. Yamaha flugelhorn and piccolo A/Bb, Monette and Hammond mouthpieces. Fender and Peavey Cirrus Bass Guitars. Ampeg and Genz-Benz amps. Embraer 170/175/190. |
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Kubelik81 New Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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rockford wrote: | Rompson wrote: | It’s probably going to wind up being .453 medium bore with either a 37 or 38 bell. But you never know, Bach did some crazy stuff. | That’s correct. Especially about the crazy stuff. Check out the Mercedes article at Vincentbachsworld.com for more details. The shop card and a visual inspection is really the only way to know how your instrument was configured when it left the factory. |
Thank you for your answers.
I have written to Marketing@Conn-Selmer.com asking.
Is there another option to consult via email?
regards _________________ 39F.Besson Breveté
46Blessing Super Artist
50Martin Committee#2
56Olds Super
56Flugelhorn Martin Imperial#3
57Selmer Deposé 23A
58Bach Mercedes Mt Vernon
62Cornet Martin Committee#2
63Selmer k-Mod 24B Lightweight
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jazzvuu Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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I call and ask two weeks ago and someone told me they would mail it a copy. I have not receiving anything but I did not send a follow email today looking to see if I can get a copy. |
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Kubelik81 New Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:35 am Post subject: |
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jazzvuu wrote: | I call and ask two weeks ago and someone told me they would mail it a copy. I have not receiving anything but I did not send a follow email today looking to see if I can get a copy. |
They have answered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shop Card:
Mercedes
Valve Bore: 0.453"
Valve-Model E
Valve-Fit: 20
Plating of Piston: Monel
Bell-Mandril: 38K
Bell-Brass. Amer.
Gauge: Stand.
Mouthpipe: 7
Date-Completed 10/17/1958
Finish 1 1/2 CL
))) _________________ 39F.Besson Breveté
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50Martin Committee#2
56Olds Super
56Flugelhorn Martin Imperial#3
57Selmer Deposé 23A
58Bach Mercedes Mt Vernon
62Cornet Martin Committee#2
63Selmer k-Mod 24B Lightweight
69Flugelhorn Selmer K-Mod |
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jazzvuu Veteran Member
Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Posts: 200 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Got mine early this week in email also.
Shop Card:
Strad
Valve Bore: 0.459"
Valve-Model E
Valve-Fit: 16
Plating of Piston: Monel
Bell-Mandril: 37
Bell-Brass. Amer.
Gauge: Stand.
Mouthpipe: 25
Date-Completed 11/25/1959
Finish 1 1/2 CL |
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Andy Cooper Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Nov 2001 Posts: 1830 Location: Terre Haute, IN USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Probably a .456 bore two piece 38 Bell and #7 leadpipe. All brass construction.
I had one for many years though my valves had a longer down/upstroke length than current Bachs. I preferred it to the Stock 25/37 Strad. |
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