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Best Solo Cornet |
Bach 184 |
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9% |
[ 2 ] |
Schilke XA1 |
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23% |
[ 5 ] |
Stomvi Titan |
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9% |
[ 2 ] |
Getzen 3850 |
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42% |
[ 9 ] |
Bach 181 |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
Yamaha YCR-8335 (I or II) |
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4% |
[ 1 ] |
Shires CN7A |
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4% |
[ 1 ] |
Schilke A1 - A2 |
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4% |
[ 1 ] |
Adams Cornet |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
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EricM224 Veteran Member
Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 274
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:18 am Post subject: Solo Cornet? |
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Please weigh in! I'm in the market for a good solo cornet... and if I'm being completely honest, I'm not up to snuff on the best instruments out there. If I didn't list a particularly great model in the poll, please feel free to comment with the make and model.
Looking for a good solo Bb cornet, to record some cornet rep., if that helps
Thanks!!! _________________ Bach Trumpet Artist - Clinician
Assistant Professor of Trumpet
University of Louisiana at Monroe
www.ericsiereveldmusic.com |
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AJCarter Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 1280 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:38 am Post subject: |
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I voted, but one major choice you left out and should investigate is the Getzen 800 Eterna. _________________ (List horns here) |
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veery715 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 4313 Location: Ithaca NY
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:14 am Post subject: |
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The Wild Thing short cornet is magnificent. Your poll, though, is asking a very subjective question, as folks are going to vote for what they have as I just did with my "write-in." You will benefit more from a trip to a store which has a good selection, and play testing a bunch.
I have a WT as mentioned above, which dictates my choice. Dale Proctor (here on TH) will probably recommend a LB Bach, as he loves his. Schilkes are very popular amongst pros who seek to double. There are many choices, but not a whole lot of folks playing cornet rep these days. You WILL find lots of cornets in British Brass Bands, where B&H Sovereigns have traditionally predominated, but in the US cornet popularity is struggling.
I prefer playing cornet in small combos/small clubs, as it's less strident and more listener friendly. _________________ veery715
Hear me sing!: https://youtu.be/vtJ14MV64WY
Playing trumpet - the healthy way to blow your brains out. |
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Christian K. Peters Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Nov 2001 Posts: 1531 Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:43 am Post subject: Solo cornet |
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Hello all,
I play my XA1 with a Warburton 5D or 5XD cup. Beautiful sound surrounded by the Schilke qualities. _________________ Christian K. Peters
Schilke Loyalist since 1976 |
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mrhappy Veteran Member
Joined: 03 Dec 2018 Posts: 371 Location: Port Jackson, NY
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:24 am Post subject: Re: Solo Cornet? |
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EricM224 wrote: | to record some cornet |
Under this circumstance the horn itself probably won't make as much difference as the way in which it's recorded... (room/mic/preamp/mouthpiece) and how it's manipulated after the fact with EQ and whatnot.
I'd vote for using the horn that you have the most fun playing or whichever cornet you have or can borrow. Maybe you can hit up some cornet friends and borrow a few different horns then see which you like best during 'playback'? _________________ MH |
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trumpet56 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Jun 2010 Posts: 623
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Smith and Watkins. I have played most brands and this Cornet is the best for players of both Cornet and Trumpet. It makes a true brass band sound. |
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trumpet56 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Jun 2010 Posts: 623
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:44 am Post subject: |
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York Eminence. Although these Cornets are no longer in production they are wonderful instruments if you can get hold of one. |
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Adam R. Getzen Heavyweight Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2013 Posts: 654 Location: Elkhorn, WI.
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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I am biased (duh) but as much as I like the 3850 the Edwards X-7 is currently our best playing cornet. _________________ Adam R. Getzen
Vice President & Co-Owner
Getzen Company |
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trumpet56 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Jun 2010 Posts: 623
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Adam, is a description of your Edwards X-7 Cornet listed on your website? |
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Adam R. Getzen Heavyweight Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2013 Posts: 654 Location: Elkhorn, WI.
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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trumpet56 wrote: | Hi Adam, is a description of your Edwards X-7 Cornet listed on your website? |
Huh. It isn’t. Admittedly the horn hasn’t technically launched yet (even though it has been to serveral shows) but I thought we had it up.
I’ll have to get some pictures and specs up. Think X-13 in efficiency but with a cornet timber and tone. _________________ Adam R. Getzen
Vice President & Co-Owner
Getzen Company |
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Richard III Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 2655 Location: Anacortes, WA
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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trumpet56 wrote: | York Eminence. Although these Cornets are no longer in production they are wonderful instruments if you can get hold of one. |
Totally agree. It was the best cornet I had found comparing to Bach, Getzen and a bunch of others. I sold my motorcycle to buy it. Yup. No more two wheel madness for me. Just a cool silver cornet. Gotta love a trigger on the main tuning slide. I could say you'll never get it until you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. But no. I would sell it. I would cry a bit. I might regret it later. Having second thoughts already. _________________ Richard
King 1130 Flugabone
King 12C mouthpiece |
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dr_trumpet Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 2533 Location: Cope, IN
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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AJCarter wrote: | I voted, but one major choice you left out and should investigate is the Getzen 800 Eterna. |
Exactly... _________________ Dr. Albert L. Lilly, III DM
Artist/Clinician for Vincent Bach Trumpets (Conn-Selmer)
Principal Trumpet, Hendricks Symphony (Avon, IN)
Arranger/Composer; Lilly Music |
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Rapier232 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Aug 2011 Posts: 1323 Location: Twixt the Moor and the Sea, UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Smith-Watkins and Yamaha Neo should be considered too. _________________ "Nearly as good as I need to be. Not nearly as good as I want to be".
Smith-Watkins Bb
Will Spencer Bb
Eclipse Flugel
Smith Watkins K2 Cornet
JP152 C Trumpet
Besson Bugle |
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blbaumgarn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Jul 2017 Posts: 705
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:53 pm Post subject: Solo Cornet |
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I would forward the Getzen 800 Eterna as a favorite, because I have only spent a few minutes with a Getzen 3850. The Eterna is my favorite cornet-cornet. I have played the Schilke A1, too, and loved it, but being a long cornet it projects a little more and is probably less cornet like than some of those on your list. It's an interesting question, though.Everyone will have their favorite. _________________ "There are two sides to a trumpeter's personality,
there is one that lives to lay waste to woodwinds and strings, leaving them lie blue and lifeless along a swath of destruction that is a
trumpeter's fury-then there is the dark side!" Irving Bush |
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Louise Finch Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Posts: 5467 Location: Suffolk, England
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:33 am Post subject: Re: Solo Cornet? |
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EricM224 wrote: | Please weigh in! I'm in the market for a good solo cornet... and if I'm being completely honest, I'm not up to snuff on the best instruments out there. If I didn't list a particularly great model in the poll, please feel free to comment with the make and model.
Looking for a good solo Bb cornet, to record some cornet rep., if that helps
Thanks!!! |
Hi EricM224
When you say you are looking for a good solo Bb cornet, to record some cornet rep., I presume that you mean solo as in a cornet on which to play solos rather than a cornet for front row brass band cornet playing. I thought that I'd clarify this issue, as as you no doubt know, the front row cornet part in a brass band is named Solo Cornet.
Going with what I think you mean, what sort of accompaniment are you having, piano, organ, a brass band, orchestra, unaccompanied etc?
Regarding cornet solos, if you are not already familiar with him, I'd recommend checking out Philip McCann's The World's Most Beautiful Melodies CDs. A slightly unusual cornet tone in my opinion, but again in my opinion, wonderful evenness throughout the registers, great accuracy and a very nice and appropriate sense of style.
Also, what are you thinking of recording? Ballads, technical repertoire etc.
My personal choice would be my Yamaha Xeno cornet (mine has the yellow brass bell), and I'd personally go for a ballad. I find the Xeno to be a wonderfully expressive cornet with great flexibility. For my taste, the Besson Sovereign and Prestige have too secure slotting.
If I was thinking of playing something more traditional with a quieter accompaniment, Love's Sweet Old Song comes to mind, I might even use my old Boosey and Hawkes Imperial. This cornet, again in my opinion, just doesn't have the dynamic range for modern brass band cornet playing, but I do feel that it has a lovely sweet cornet sound.
All the best
Lou _________________ Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs |
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trumpetguy27 Veteran Member
Joined: 02 Aug 2011 Posts: 255 Location: Westminster Maryland
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:26 am Post subject: |
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For a solo cornet I can think of nothing better than a Del Quadro Picasso Cornet. I have played them several times and Mike is currently building me mine... I. CANNOT. WAIT!
Mike's horns are really nice, with solid copper bells that are super versatile, and Getzen/Edwards valves... and Mike is an AWESOME dude to deal with.
dqscustomshop.com
Just my two cents! _________________ Adams Gold Brass/Nickel Flugel
Olds Ambassador tunable bell OR double bell Bb - by SK Brassworks (that's me!)
Olds Ambassador C - SK Brassworks Conversion (that's me!) |
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veery715 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 4313 Location: Ithaca NY
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:38 am Post subject: |
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I guess we are waiting for the OP to define what he means by cornet "rep." To me it means the Characteristic Studies in Arban and the like, originally played on cornet since the trumpet was then considered an instrument of the devil. This would include The Carnival of Venice and other exhibition pieces, as played by soloists such as Herbert L. Clarke and Walter B. Rogers. _________________ veery715
Hear me sing!: https://youtu.be/vtJ14MV64WY
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