1963 CSO telecast with good coverage of the tpts

Denny Schreffler

If this has been posted in the past, please forgive.

Interesting close-ups of Herseth – flat-finger/finger tips, vibrato, throat engagement (watch AH’s tie), differences of obvious pivot within the section …

Adolph Herseth, Vincent Cichowicz, Frank Kaderabek, Bob Rushford

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cu74HDLL0g&feature=youtu.be&loop=0

-Denny

Athos · Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:37 am Post subject:

Great resource! Thanks for posting.

Denny Schreffler · Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:50 am Post subject:

FTee · Veteran Member Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 455

Bud's solo at 13:55. Wow. What a sound and what phrasing. Can't say anything more than that.

MalinTrumpet · Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:36 pm Post subject: CSO 1963

Here’s a few observations: I noticed the woodwinds are sitting on stage during the Hindemith. Is this unusual? Also the trumpets set up 4321 from left to right. I’ve also seen this in old videos of the New York Philharmonic (Principal on the end with the 4th, 3rd or 2nd player next to the 1st trombone).

Was this common seating order and, if so, when did it change?

LCM

lmaraya · Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 618

Denny Schreffler · Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:56 pm Post subject:

dmamazon · Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:11 pm Post subject:

That is minimal tie movement(everyone wore their tie TIGHT then)...and his fingers are way better than mine. What and incredible sound and if you seriously listen to the entire clip just IMAGINE what it would sound like live......all of the section using the famous mt. vernon Cs and large mouthpieces.

This is the epitome of symphonic brass. We can only imagine what it sounded like live....and most of us that know KNOW that THIS is the sound and style that turned everything symphonic into what it is today.

This is the heyday of everything symphonic trumpet. We can all only wish we were there to realize it.

cjl · Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:31 am Post subject:

I bought a DVD of this a few years ago. One of the things I noticed is that you can see what appears to be a patch on Herseth’s bell just toward the player from the valves. Look around 2:45. Repair? Protective?

— Joe

MalinTrumpet · Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:38 am Post subject: CSO

If you look very closely you'll see that Kaderabek's trumpet is not a Bach. I think it is a Holton. When Herseth first come to the CSO there were print ads of the CSO trumpets endorsing Holton.

So much for the trumpets all using Mt. Vernon C's.

I heard this orchestra many times under Martinon and Solti when I ventured to Chicago to study with Arnold Jacobs. Subsequently I heard them under Barenboim and this past season Muti.

LCM

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