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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member
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interfx Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Interesting description...
"The Bach VBS1S37LM2 is a unique semi-professional Bb trumpet designed exclusively for Long & McQuade. The trumpet is fully handmade in the US at the Bach factory and features a #37, 2 piece bell in brilliant silver plating. The rest of the trumpet is made in a very similar style to a Bach Stradivarius trumpet with a uniquely Canadian engraving pattern. This also comes with a new deluxe hybrid gig style case with backpack straps."
Assume this is being produced in the Eastlake Conn-Selmer factory? where the Bach TR series is produced.
Did some additional searching for the "Bach VBS1" trumpet, and they talk about "same valve assembly as Bach's premium Stradivarius series" Seems to be different versions one with a 37,43, and 72 bell. Here's a video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAWJvrmkvi8 _________________ ------
trumpetLINKS: https://www.trumpetLINKS.com
BachLoyalist: https://www.bachloyalist.com |
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Acludwig1 Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Interesting. Correct me if I’m wrong but it seems to me that Bach is making a stencil horn for Long & McQuade. At least that’s what I’m thinking after hearing about this “uniquely Canadian engraving.” |
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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:13 am Post subject: |
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I don't think it qualifies as a Stencil, because it is still branded Bach. It's just a model exclusive to L and M. _________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
Bach 7C mouthpiece
I'm looking for a Connstellation 5C-N or 5B-N mouthpiece
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Ricsim88 Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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It’s not the first time they’ve done this. They made one a few years back to celebrate the store’s 60th anniversary. One of my students has one. Definitely not the greatest horn for sure. _________________ Richard Simoneau
Principal trumpet Symphony Nova Scotia
Maritime Brass Quintet
Yamaha 9445 CHS 3rd gen
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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Richard. Do you think much of the fully-fledged Stradivarius? Just trying to gauge your answer. Thanks. _________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
Bach 7C mouthpiece
I'm looking for a Connstellation 5C-N or 5B-N mouthpiece
www.jazzscales.org
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Ricsim88 Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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jetjaguar wrote: | Hello Richard. Do you think much of the fully-fledged Stradivarius? Just trying to gauge your answer. Thanks. |
I haven’t played a strad in a long time, except for testing students horns, but I definitely think the strad, if you find a really good one, would beat this lower tier trumpet by a good margin. _________________ Richard Simoneau
Principal trumpet Symphony Nova Scotia
Maritime Brass Quintet
Yamaha 9445 CHS 3rd gen
Yamaha Xeno 8335IIS
Yamaha 9820C piccolo |
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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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OK thanks. _________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
Bach 7C mouthpiece
I'm looking for a Connstellation 5C-N or 5B-N mouthpiece
www.jazzscales.org
The Coady Strengthening Exercises: http://coady.coolwarm.com |
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robcs Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:27 am Post subject: |
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That might be down to the individual horn. Our local L&M has one of these “special editions” in and I play tested it, albeit only for a short time.
I honestly didn’t find enough of a difference between that and my Strad to say “I’m glad I spent the extra money on a ‘real’ Strad”. My main criteria, though, is “can I produce the sound I want from a horn without too much extra work?” I’m not a purist, and some on this forum probably have a much more developed sense of timbre and tone than I do, so it might not be for everyone.
Nevertheless, I’d say it’s a great trade up horn, and I don’t think anyone would have to be embarrassed taking one out in a semi pro setting. Maybe even pro. After all, if I made my living from my trumpet, I’d have whatever trumpet I played tweaked and finessed to the extreme of its playability by a tech, and I didn’t get the sense that you’d have to do too much extra to the VBS compared to the Strad. _________________ Play with the QORC and GGHG bands
Tpt: Bach 180S37, Besson K Int’l, Sprengler SARV, Radial C, Schiller Eb/D, ACB Picc
Crnt: ACB LB, Reynolds CR301B
Flgh: Jupiter 846RL
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Ozzbo Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't the VBS 2-piece bell Bach "Strads" been out for many years in the European market ??
Wasn't Thomann a dealer of them as far back as 10 yrs ago ??
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robcs Regular Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Absolutely correct. I expect it's the same trumpet, rolling off the same production line, but Bach has partnered with L&M for the Canadian market.
I'm not sure Thomann had an exclusive deal. I think other European sellers had the VBS, too, and also I believe they were available in the Far East (though I might be wrong about that) _________________ Play with the QORC and GGHG bands
Tpt: Bach 180S37, Besson K Int’l, Sprengler SARV, Radial C, Schiller Eb/D, ACB Picc
Crnt: ACB LB, Reynolds CR301B
Flgh: Jupiter 846RL
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Ozzbo Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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I would be very surprised if this VBS line is made here in the USA and not overseas by contract. That price point would still be too low for a slim downed, budget Strad. Anyone can confirm where it's manufactured at ???
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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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The wording in the advertisement is: "The trumpet is fully handmade in the US at the Bach factory" _________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
Bach 7C mouthpiece
I'm looking for a Connstellation 5C-N or 5B-N mouthpiece
www.jazzscales.org
The Coady Strengthening Exercises: http://coady.coolwarm.com |
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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member
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grune Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:18 am Post subject: Re: Bach for Canada |
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Well, the Bach Co of today is not the Bach Co of 1975 and prior. But, what is your main point here? _________________ Bach Stradivarius, 180S37 (Silver Model 37 Bb), ML75618, purchased new in 1972. |
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