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trumpetimplosion New Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:54 am Post subject: Vivaldi Concerto in A flat Wild Goose Chase |
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Does anybody here know where, on this mere speck of dust we call Earth, the score and parts, or just the parts to the Maurice Andre recoding/version of the Vivaldi Concerto in A-flat? Yes, I mean this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTr0MyITJ4
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dstpt Heavyweight Member
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dr_trumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Vivaldi Concerto in A flat Wild Goose Chase |
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trumpetimplosion wrote: | Does anybody here know where, on this mere speck of dust we call Earth, the score and parts, or just the parts to the Maurice Andre recoding/version of the Vivaldi Concerto in A-flat? Yes, I mean this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTr0MyITJ4
Thanks for any info. |
Score and parts meaning trumpet and piano or trumpet and orchestra? _________________ Dr. Albert L. Lilly, III DM
Artist/Clinician for Vincent Bach Trumpets (Conn-Selmer)
Principal Trumpet, Hendricks Symphony (Avon, IN)
Arranger/Composer; Lilly Music |
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dstpt Heavyweight Member
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omelet wrote: | http://imslp.org/wiki/Violin_Sonata_in_F_major,_RV_20_(Vivaldi,_Antonio) |
I don't think this is the same piece in question by the OP. |
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hvarf9 Regular Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:42 pm Post subject: no |
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omelet wrote: | http://imslp.org/wiki/Violin_Sonata_in_F_major,_RV_20_(Vivaldi,_Antonio) |
Agreed, this is not the same piece |
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dr_trumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: Vivaldi Concerto in A flat Wild Goose Chase |
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dr_trumpet wrote: | trumpetimplosion wrote: | Does anybody here know where, on this mere speck of dust we call Earth, the score and parts, or just the parts to the Maurice Andre recoding/version of the Vivaldi Concerto in A-flat? Yes, I mean this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTr0MyITJ4
Thanks for any info. |
Score and parts meaning trumpet and piano or trumpet and orchestra? |
Has this thread been abandoned? No reply to a question of what is wanted and an offer for help. _________________ Dr. Albert L. Lilly, III DM
Artist/Clinician for Vincent Bach Trumpets (Conn-Selmer)
Principal Trumpet, Hendricks Symphony (Avon, IN)
Arranger/Composer; Lilly Music |
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Joel Payne Regular Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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I recall being blown away by this when I first heard Andre play it, so worked it up back in the mid 1970s. I should have the trumpet and piano music in my music stacks someplace in the house. Let me look around to locate them.
Joel Payne _________________ Joel Payne |
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GordonH Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:39 am Post subject: |
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It is a violin sonatat, Vivaldi Opus 2, Number 4.
It's on page 11 here:
http://imslp.eu/files/imglnks/euimg/8/80/IMSLP393911-PMLP183164-Vivaldi_12_Sonatas_op.2_Vl_%26_Po_Vol.1_Violin.pdf
Andre only recorded the last three movements.
Its originally in F, which I think means if you played it on an Eb trumpet as written it would take you into Ab. _________________ Bb - Scherzer 8218W, Schilke S22, Bach 43, Selmer 19A Balanced
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trumpetimplosion New Member
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Just to be clear, I am looking for the ORCHESTRAL parts to the version recorded by Andre with Karajan and the Berlin Philharmonic (hmm . . perhaps I should contact the librarian at the Berliner Philharmoniker, there's a thought). I ha e the published piano and trumpet version and for further clarity, and in case anybody is interested, and this took ME a while to research the piece was originally a Sonata for Violin and Piano, specifically, Sonata in F Major for Violin and Piano, Op. 2, No. 4, RV 20. (Thank you). If interested, I have a copy of the trumpet part that Andre Plays with the keyboard part from the original version. If you want it, tell me what key you want it in, send me 5 dollars via PayPal and it's yours! OR if you tell me where I can find the orchestral parts from the Andre orchestra version, it's yours for free!
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dstpt wrote: | omelet wrote: | http://imslp.org/wiki/Violin_Sonata_in_F_major,_RV_20_(Vivaldi,_Antonio) |
I don't think this is the same piece in question by the OP. |
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trumpetimplosion New Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Vivaldi Concerto in A flat Wild Goose Chase |
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dr_trumpet wrote: | trumpetimplosion wrote: | Does anybody here know where, on this mere speck of dust we call Earth, the score and parts, or just the parts to the Maurice Andre recoding/version of the Vivaldi Concerto in A-flat? Yes, I mean this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTr0MyITJ4
Thanks for any info. |
Score and parts meaning trumpet and piano or trumpet and orchestra? |
Trumpet and Orchestra |
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GordonH Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:40 am Post subject: |
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The recording with Karajan was the second time Andre had recorded it. I have an earlier version on a Philips album. I am not sure what date as I am not at home but its from the 60s.
IIRC the Ab version with piano was published by Selmer, who had a music publishing division at this time. I think my earlier recording says this along with the arrangers name. It might be worth reaching out to Raymond Andre - Maurice's son. He is an orchestral trumpet player in Spain and speaks Spanish and French. I don't know him but I know people who have met him professionally and he does a bit of teaching too. _________________ Bb - Scherzer 8218W, Schilke S22, Bach 43, Selmer 19A Balanced
Pic - Weril
Flugel - Courtois 154
Cornet - Geneva Heritage, Conn 28A
Mouthpieces - Monette 1-5 rims and similar.
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dr_trumpet Heavyweight Member
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GordonH wrote: | The recording with Karajan was the second time Andre had recorded it. I have an earlier version on a Philips album. I am not sure what date as I am not at home but its from the 60s.
IIRC the Ab version with piano was published by Selmer, who had a music publishing division at this time. I think my earlier recording says this along with the arrangers name. It might be worth reaching out to Raymond Andre - Maurice's son. He is an orchestral trumpet player in Spain and speaks Spanish and French. I don't know him but I know people who have met him professionally and he does a bit of teaching too. |
It was indeed a Selmer publication, Jean Thilde the arranger. I searched long and hard to find it was impossible to find. At least it gave me a reason to create my own from the original, which was not in Ab. _________________ Dr. Albert L. Lilly, III DM
Artist/Clinician for Vincent Bach Trumpets (Conn-Selmer)
Principal Trumpet, Hendricks Symphony (Avon, IN)
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GordonH Heavyweight Member
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Sustained note Heavyweight Member
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GordonH wrote: | It might be worth reaching out to Raymond Andre - Maurice's son. He is an orchestral trumpet player in Spain and speaks Spanish and French. I don't know him but I know people who have met him professionally and he does a bit of teaching too. |
Wasn't Raymond André Maurice André's brother?
http://abel.hive.no/trompet/andre/raymond/ _________________ Michael Greenberg
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