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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:54 am    Post subject: Vivaldi Concerto in A flat Wild Goose Chase Reply with quote

Does anybody here know where, on this mere speck of dust we call Earth, the score and parts, or just the parts to the Maurice Andre recoding/version of the Vivaldi Concerto in A-flat? Yes, I mean this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTr0MyITJ4

Thanks for any info.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an older TH thread about it (2006)...

https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58070&sid=dd5c6edb0bb88a941817a6ad94fd032a


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://imslp.org/wiki/Violin_Sonata_in_F_major,_RV_20_(Vivaldi,_Antonio)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Vivaldi Concerto in A flat Wild Goose Chase Reply with quote

trumpetimplosion wrote:
Does anybody here know where, on this mere speck of dust we call Earth, the score and parts, or just the parts to the Maurice Andre recoding/version of the Vivaldi Concerto in A-flat? Yes, I mean this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTr0MyITJ4

Thanks for any info.


Score and parts meaning trumpet and piano or trumpet and orchestra?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

omelet wrote:
http://imslp.org/wiki/Violin_Sonata_in_F_major,_RV_20_(Vivaldi,_Antonio)

I don't think this is the same piece in question by the OP.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:42 pm    Post subject: no Reply with quote

omelet wrote:
http://imslp.org/wiki/Violin_Sonata_in_F_major,_RV_20_(Vivaldi,_Antonio)


Agreed, this is not the same piece
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Vivaldi Concerto in A flat Wild Goose Chase Reply with quote

dr_trumpet wrote:
trumpetimplosion wrote:
Does anybody here know where, on this mere speck of dust we call Earth, the score and parts, or just the parts to the Maurice Andre recoding/version of the Vivaldi Concerto in A-flat? Yes, I mean this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTr0MyITJ4

Thanks for any info.


Score and parts meaning trumpet and piano or trumpet and orchestra?


Has this thread been abandoned? No reply to a question of what is wanted and an offer for help.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recall being blown away by this when I first heard Andre play it, so worked it up back in the mid 1970s. I should have the trumpet and piano music in my music stacks someplace in the house. Let me look around to locate them.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a violin sonatat, Vivaldi Opus 2, Number 4.

It's on page 11 here:

http://imslp.eu/files/imglnks/euimg/8/80/IMSLP393911-PMLP183164-Vivaldi_12_Sonatas_op.2_Vl_%26_Po_Vol.1_Violin.pdf

Andre only recorded the last three movements.
Its originally in F, which I think means if you played it on an Eb trumpet as written it would take you into Ab.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to be clear, I am looking for the ORCHESTRAL parts to the version recorded by Andre with Karajan and the Berlin Philharmonic (hmm . . perhaps I should contact the librarian at the Berliner Philharmoniker, there's a thought). I ha e the published piano and trumpet version and for further clarity, and in case anybody is interested, and this took ME a while to research the piece was originally a Sonata for Violin and Piano, specifically, Sonata in F Major for Violin and Piano, Op. 2, No. 4, RV 20. (Thank you). If interested, I have a copy of the trumpet part that Andre Plays with the keyboard part from the original version. If you want it, tell me what key you want it in, send me 5 dollars via PayPal and it's yours! OR if you tell me where I can find the orchestral parts from the Andre orchestra version, it's yours for free!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwiQgqT9ln4
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dstpt wrote:
omelet wrote:
http://imslp.org/wiki/Violin_Sonata_in_F_major,_RV_20_(Vivaldi,_Antonio)

I don't think this is the same piece in question by the OP.
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Yes it is.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: Vivaldi Concerto in A flat Wild Goose Chase Reply with quote

dr_trumpet wrote:
trumpetimplosion wrote:
Does anybody here know where, on this mere speck of dust we call Earth, the score and parts, or just the parts to the Maurice Andre recoding/version of the Vivaldi Concerto in A-flat? Yes, I mean this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTr0MyITJ4

Thanks for any info.


Score and parts meaning trumpet and piano or trumpet and orchestra?




Trumpet and Orchestra
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The recording with Karajan was the second time Andre had recorded it. I have an earlier version on a Philips album. I am not sure what date as I am not at home but its from the 60s.

IIRC the Ab version with piano was published by Selmer, who had a music publishing division at this time. I think my earlier recording says this along with the arrangers name. It might be worth reaching out to Raymond Andre - Maurice's son. He is an orchestral trumpet player in Spain and speaks Spanish and French. I don't know him but I know people who have met him professionally and he does a bit of teaching too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GordonH wrote:
The recording with Karajan was the second time Andre had recorded it. I have an earlier version on a Philips album. I am not sure what date as I am not at home but its from the 60s.

IIRC the Ab version with piano was published by Selmer, who had a music publishing division at this time. I think my earlier recording says this along with the arrangers name. It might be worth reaching out to Raymond Andre - Maurice's son. He is an orchestral trumpet player in Spain and speaks Spanish and French. I don't know him but I know people who have met him professionally and he does a bit of teaching too.


It was indeed a Selmer publication, Jean Thilde the arranger. I searched long and hard to find it was impossible to find. At least it gave me a reason to create my own from the original, which was not in Ab.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See here:

https://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/concerto-for-trumpet-strings-and-continuo-opus-2-number-4-digital-sheet-music/20277258

Obviously this is not the same arrangement but its in the same key and its only $60.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GordonH wrote:
It might be worth reaching out to Raymond Andre - Maurice's son. He is an orchestral trumpet player in Spain and speaks Spanish and French. I don't know him but I know people who have met him professionally and he does a bit of teaching too.


Wasn't Raymond André Maurice André's brother?

http://abel.hive.no/trompet/andre/raymond/
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