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markp Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 2814 Location: Coarsegold, CA
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:54 am Post subject: Shew jazz with more comfortable rim? |
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I really like the sound I get with the Bobby Shew Jazz trumpet mouthpiece by Yamaha. It gives me the best combination of dark-enough sound but zippy-enough backbore for flexibility and ability to hop around from register to register at a fast tempo.
Unfortunately, after playing for a while the rim is uncomfortable for me and somewhat painful.
I'd love to have a flatter rim with a sharper bite on it. Has anyone ever had a custom mouthpiece made of a Shew Jazz with a different rim?
Or, is there a mouthpiece out there made by another maker that is similar to Shew Jazz but with different rim options? |
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HERMOKIWI Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 2581
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:41 am Post subject: |
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I think Reeves will copy your mouthpiece and change the rim to whatever you want it to be. I think they do custom work like that. It's worth an inquiry. _________________ HERMOKIWI |
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TKSop Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2014 Posts: 1735 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:51 am Post subject: |
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IIRC it's pretty much a Bach 3c with a narrower rounded rim and a tighter backbore.
I would think talking to someone like Jim New (he of the many many scans) would be a good bet... The backbore is probably more like a Bach 76 than 10, Jim would probably know. |
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John Mohan Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Nov 2001 Posts: 9830 Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:05 am Post subject: |
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I am wondering why you think a sharper bite would be more comfortable.
I can tell you that while I like the sound I get from the Shew Jazz mouthpiece (I own one), my Reeves 43C is a similar size mouthpiece with a more comfortable rim. There is no way for you to know if it is for you unless you get one and use it for a while. Watch eBay or the TH Marketplace for a used one (or buy one new from the WWBC because if you don't like it you can return it for a refund within a certain amount of time).
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Turkle Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 2450 Location: New York City
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Shew jazz with more comfortable rim? |
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markp wrote: | I really like the sound I get with the Bobby Shew Jazz trumpet mouthpiece by Yamaha. It gives me the best combination of dark-enough sound but zippy-enough backbore for flexibility and ability to hop around from register to register at a fast tempo.
Unfortunately, after playing for a while the rim is uncomfortable for me and somewhat painful.
I'd love to have a flatter rim with a sharper bite on it. Has anyone ever had a custom mouthpiece made of a Shew Jazz with a different rim?
Or, is there a mouthpiece out there made by another maker that is similar to Shew Jazz but with different rim options? |
The Shew Jazz is basically a 3C with a slightly narrow rim. You should just go around trying one of the hundreds of 3C copies that are out there - maybe even a Bach!! - and settle on one that has the inner bite you are looking for.
I've owned dozens of 3C-style mouthpieces (including the Shew) over the years and the one with the flattest rim and sharpest bite was a Bach 3C I bought new in about 2005 or so. Try one! _________________ Yamaha 8310Z trumpet
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markp Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 2814 Location: Coarsegold, CA
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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John Mohan wrote: | I am wondering why you think a sharper bite would be more comfortable.
I can tell you that while I like the sound I get from the Shew Jazz mouthpiece (I own one), my Reeves 43C is a similar size mouthpiece with a more comfortable rim. There is no way for you to know if it is for you unless you get one and use it for a while. Watch eBay or the TH Marketplace for a used one (or buy one new from the WWBC because if you don't like it you can return it for a refund within a certain amount of time).
Best wishes,
John Mohan
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Thanks for the advice. On eBay there is a Reeves 43C listed for sale as a Rv2Tr43C.
What do the letters Rv2Tr mean? Is that a regular Reeves 43C or something different? |
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giakara Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 3832 Location: Greece
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:30 am Post subject: |
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The cheaper and more secure move is to send your piece to Reeves shop to cut the rim and put on a 43 rim the most forgiving rim ever made.
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delano Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 3118 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:12 am Post subject: |
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I own for years an 80ties VB 3C mouthpiece (small deep letters with: vincent bach corp. 3C) and though it plays quite well, it's way too bright. I did not want to sell it because I am always expecting that some, some day, I will be able to get a better sound out of it. In the mean time I have great admiration for people who succeeded in that. How did they get a jazzy sound and not a typical (outdated?) classical sound out of this quite shallow mp? I played similar mp's like a Yamaha 14B4GP, and for years a Warburton Arturo cup with 5 bb but the genuine Bach was not my cup of tea. Still not is. Nowadays I play a Yamaha 14D4, not the same resonance as the Bach but more power, more low and more body to the sound. |
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