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Donjon
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:41 pm    Post subject: Pic rep Reply with quote

Hello there, I'm intending to buy a pic soon and I'm wanting to prep by getting some lit together. I was going to buy the Pic Big Book, but it seems to have a lot of transposed parts for pic in A....I'm wanting to work from D parts like I'd need to in the real world,

Based on this, might the PTBB not be for me?

What lit might be good to suggest. Specific study books et al.

Many thanks, Jon.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump. Any advice. Is the pic big book primary written in A and B flat? I'm wanting to get used to standard transpositions for the horn, so I'm wanting to read mostly D trumpet and C trumpet parts.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the PTBB has great information in it as well and should be considered for that reason alone.

As far as parts go, anything Hickman sells comes with D and A parts. Most Musica RaRa editions have D and Bb parts, I've also seen some that have C and Bb parts. you just need to pull the trigger and expect to spend some cash.

As far as suggested rep to begin with? Handel Suite in D, Torelli concerto in D and any of the sonatas, L. Mozart, Fasch, etc. As far as study books, Phil Collins and Chris Gekker both have books for piccolo that are nice. I've never looked into the Gerald Webster books, but hear they are good as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing to do is go to the big horn and make sure you are doing things well. Every single deficit in your production and technique will be amplified by a piccolo.

The basic repertoire, such as Clarke and Handel suites, torelli sonatas, Bach and Handel literature, ar all excellent. You may also want to go through Bendinelli and other more historical texts and methods to glean insight into how to play the literature from this time.

Finally, any nice beginners book, like Essential Elements, is a great place to start playing. Easy music, where you can aim to make a wonderful sound and add range progressively.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the Pic Big Book, Hickman has done the examples for different horns as he suggests playing them. For Vivaldi in C for 2 trumpets, he suggests using G picc so the part is written for that horn. On Brandenberg 2, he suggests using C picc, so that part is written for that horn.
I don't know you so it isn't clear to me where you are starting from. So, I don't know if you're ready to jump into Trumpet Voluntary, Brandenberg or anything in between. But, I do agree with others that as you acclimate to picc, focus on playing easier music well before working on the more difficult literature. I've worked with a lot of college students who try to jump right to the hard stuff without developing a solid base. The Wedding Book by Chuck Seipp contains great practical pieces for picc that work in many settings and are not impossibly difficult.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very good advice. I've got loads of intermediate and beginner stuff to tackle.
I played through the Vivaldi concerto for 2 trumpets earlier today playing it at pitch on the b flat. I'm currently working on regularly playing up to concert C and D. I've also been working on chunks of Telemann concerto in D, transposed up to F on the big B flat horn (a semi-tone above pitch.

So the pic will expose any shaky bits of technique? Is it fair to say that it will improve my overall trumpet technique?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any Oboe literature works well for Piccolo trumpet. Regardless of what you play, however, it is important to work with the resistance of the instrument and not to work against it. The resistance helps you to obtain and to blow easier. Aim to maintain a lighter feeling like the Eb trumpet, and do not try to muscle it with the same technique you would with your C trumpet or Bb trumpet.
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