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Bill_Bumps Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:13 am Post subject: Dry mouth |
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When I'm practicing, I find that my mouth dries out fairly frequently. When that happens, my lips start to lose flexibility and it feels like I'm just suffering from over-blowing. Yet when I take a drink from the water bottle I keep beside me, I'm back in business again.
I use chap-stick on my lips, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. Anyone else have this problem? If so, how are you addressing it? How do the pros deal with it?
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Don Herman rev2 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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1. Drink. You send a lot of water out through the horn with the air and get dehydrated.
2. Rubbing your tongue against your teeth or roof of your mouth can help generate saliva to keep things moist.
HTH - Don _________________ "After silence, that which best expresses the inexpressible, is music" - Aldous Huxley |
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Turkle Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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I find that flavored seltzer works great. It has some flavor (besides just water) so it stimulates your own salivation with just a sip. But it has no sugar or acid or junk like that that is bad for your horn.
Whenever I perform, I have flavored seltzer nearby! _________________ Yamaha 8310Z trumpet
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Bill_Bumps Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. I'll try what you suggest. |
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SMrtn Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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You answered your own question. |
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JVL Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:55 am Post subject: |
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hello
i think it's nor normal.
is it because you're just going out from eating ? what do you eat in general ? and drink ?
is it because of allergies and intolerances ? dysbiosis ? what about your glycemy ? have you checked diabet possibility ?
is your mouthpiece plating still ok ?
do you clean enough regularly mpc & horn ?
best |
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Andy Del Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Dry mouth - medically diagnosed - is a very real condition. I have suffered from this after treatment for a throat squamous cell carcinoma.
It is due to no saliva being produced, NOT dehydration, so drinking lots of water may not solve the issue.
For me, the only possible thing was to both take sips off water and chew gum. The chewing promotes the production of saliva, which we need to keep our moths moist when playing. (It also helps with tooth decay, and few other things)
My suggestion: chew gum. It works.
Cheers
Andy _________________ so many horns, so few good notes... |
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JVL Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:34 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Andy Del"]Dry mouth - medically diagnosed - is a very real condition. I have suffered from this after treatment for a throat squamous cell carcinoma.
It is due to no saliva being produced, NOT dehydration, so drinking lots of water may not solve the issue.
For me, the only possible thing was to both take sips off water and chew gum. The chewing promotes the production of saliva, which we need to keep our moths moist when playing. (It also helps with tooth decay, and few other things)
My suggestion: chew gum. It works.
Cheers
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While i agree with the fact that in some cases, drinking a lot of water will not be a solution, but a comfy one, and on the other hand can induce some hyponatremy or demineralization, the chew gum etc will be also a symptomatical answer.
I mean that it will stimulate some glands already tired or exhausted, like you could beat an exhausted horse to make him run more..until he'll die.
Ok, for some time it'll help, i repeat, as a symptomatical answer.
But you must find the cause. And treeat the cause. Not the symptom.
best
JVL
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SMrtn Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Andy Del wrote: | Dry mouth - medically diagnosed - is a very real condition. I have suffered from this after treatment for a throat squamous cell carcinoma.
It is due to no saliva being produced, NOT dehydration, so drinking lots of water may not solve the issue.
For me, the only possible thing was to both take sips off water and chew gum. The chewing promotes the production of saliva, which we need to keep our moths moist when playing. (It also helps with tooth decay, and few other things)
My suggestion: chew gum. It works.
Cheers
Andy |
Yeah, but apparently he gets it 'after practicing' |
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Bill_Bumps Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Turkle wrote: | I find that flavored seltzer works great. It has some flavor (besides just water) so it stimulates your own salivation with just a sip. But it has no sugar or acid or junk like that that is bad for your horn. |
That seems to have done the trick for me. Thank you. |
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Andy Del Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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JVL wrote: |
While i agree with the fact that in some cases, drinking a lot of water will not be a solution, but a comfy one, and on the other hand can induce some hyponatremy or demineralization, the chew gum etc will be also a symptomatical answer.
I mean that it will stimulate some glands already tired or exhausted, like you could beat an exhausted horse to make him run more..until he'll die.
Ok, for some time it'll help, i repeat, as a symptomatical answer.
But you must find the cause. And treeat the cause. Not the symptom.
best
JVL |
Yes, but what one wants is to not dry out, after practising (or playing ) for a time. Stimulating a gland(s) which was fried by radiation worked. I was told it wouldn’t do much if anything and after 3 months any potential improvement was done and dusted.
There was a measurable increase in saliva for 5 years, due to stimulating the glands. I would have to treat the root cause, but the tumour would have ended up, well you’re a medical type so you know!
Which makes me think you are going to do the successful operation, despite the patient kicking the bucket.
Cheers
Andy _________________ so many horns, so few good notes... |
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JVL Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:14 am Post subject: |
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hello Andy
this is a very particular, specific situation.
I was talking in general, for organisms in "normal" health.
Forza to you, and say hello to our friend Anthony Aarons
all the best |
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Andy Del Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:09 am Post subject: |
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will do, we are playing Messiah next weekend. 😁 _________________ so many horns, so few good notes... |
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JVL Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Great ! tell him to be careful in the church
all the best |
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