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ArtandSons Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:59 am Post subject: choice of horn |
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So I am a returning player after many years and basically starting over. My question is: I have two horns - a 70's Reynolds Medalist from the Olds factory in Fullerton and I have a 70's King Silver Flair 1055T Eastlake. The Reynolds is a student / intermediate horn and the King is a "professional" (and I am not sure what that really means) horn. Both are in excellent condition and have sat for years. My local repair shop has serviced both.
Is there any advantage in starting back with the Reynolds and progressing to the King or because the King is a much nicer horn going with the King? I play them both and don't notice any difference in sound (at this point in my return) but the King has better valves and slides etc. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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Just play the one that works for you. If you feel an advantage from the other one later, change. Simple. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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JayKosta Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think there is any advantage to starting with the Reynolds that you've described. But keep the Reynolds for situations where you play that don't allow you 'full control' of keeping the horn safe - parades, crowded stages, etc.
I also have an inexpensive 'student' horn for just those reasons.
Jay _________________ Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'. |
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Dayton Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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If you find no difference in sound, but the King has better valve and slide action, then the King is the horn you should play.
Good luck! |
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ArtandSons Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Ok thank you...one other thing I noticed is that the valve block is much further forward on the Reynolds..a full valve width further forward. Does that have any effect on sound or is it just a style / playing position thing? |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Physical feel. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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No experience here with Reynolds, but that vintage Silver Flair is, IMO, a great horn. I played one in high school, really wish I had kept it.
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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plp Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Play both.
Don't overthink it, just swap back and forth, one will do some stuff better, and the other will do other stuff better. Some things will be equally easy or difficult, but with different tones and attacks, again, don't overthink it.
Neither will be an advantage, as long as both are in good condition, and you said they have both been to the shop, so am assuming they are in good nick.
Just relax, play, and enjoy coming back to music. It is just that simple. _________________ Since all other motives—fame, money, power, even honor—are thrown out the window the moment I pick up that instrument..... I play because I love doing it, even when the results are disappointing. In short, I do it to do it.” Wayne Booth |
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Ed Kennedy Heavyweight Member
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blbaumgarn Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:10 am Post subject: choice of horn |
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Shucks yes play them both and find out their strong and "weaker" points. The balanced Reynolds is just a matter of comfort for you. I recently read some about the great Uan Ramsey who said he could never get the feel of the balanced horns but they worked just fine. I have played more King Silver flairs back in h.s. and they were very nice. If you play them both enough one will stand out as being the best all arounder. That is just MHO about it. Have fun with it. _________________ "There are two sides to a trumpeter's personality,
there is one that lives to lay waste to woodwinds and strings, leaving them lie blue and lifeless along a swath of destruction that is a
trumpeter's fury-then there is the dark side!" Irving Bush |
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ArtandSons Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks to all that replied, That China Town piece is amazing...
I will play both horns, why not!? I do like the feel of the valve forward position on the Reynolds but the valves on the King are shorter throw and so much nicer. maybe with time I will notice a difference in sound. I have a long way to go but I don't work that much anymore so I have time |
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ArtandSons Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Ok 1 more thought - the Reynolds is a .460 bore and the King is a .462
not sure if that is significant |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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ArtandSons wrote: | Ok 1 more thought - the Reynolds is a .460 bore and the King is a .462
not sure if that is significant |
I SERIOUSLY doubt whether that will factor in to whichever horn you prefer. I played that same King in high school and didn’t even realize it was slightly larger than most ML bore horns until just a few years ago.
Also:
https://www.everythingtrumpet.com/schilke/B_flat_trumpets.html
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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