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VetPsychWars Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 7196 Location: Greenfield WI
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:22 am Post subject: |
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A few other companies make a similar thing, H&B, Wick, Harmon...
I had the H&B version and it works well but ultimately I elected to give that to my niece and use the rubber H&B because I could hold it better.
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biesemeier New Member
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NMex Heavyweight Member
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Louise Finch Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Posts: 5467 Location: Suffolk, England
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:44 am Post subject: |
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Hi
I don't know how others hold plunger mutes, but a lot of actual trumpet plunger mutes rather than sink plungers, appear to have a handle on the bottom. I've always used the Denis Wick plunger, which has a flat bottom and cup it in the palm of my left hand. Seems to work well for me, considering that I am female, fairly small and have fairly short arms, as it effectively reduced the length of the mute.
I know that a lot of people don't like the Denis Wick plunger, but I've had good results with mine, and am happy with it.
All the best
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giakara Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 3832 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:56 am Post subject: |
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The plunger that you use without a pixie mute must have a hole to avoid intonation problems , this is a very good video that explains how the plungers works .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0w_qeTCqiw
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Louise Finch Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Posts: 5467 Location: Suffolk, England
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Hi giakara
Thank you very much. Very interesting. When I use my Denis Wick plunger, without a hole, I don't close it fully the whole way round. I'm obviously not playing at the moment, and have never taken much notice how I use a plunger, but there is a plastic rim around the top, and I have the mute at an angle, so that there is a gap between the rim and the bell at one location. Maybe this compensates for the lack of a hole, I don't know, only that I quickly realised that full closing the mute against the bell, doesn't give good results.
Take Care
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Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
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adagiotrumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:03 am Post subject: |
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These come in multiple colors and small and large sizes. They work better with a hole cut or drilled through the center I found the best way to cut the hole is with a large leather punch. They also don't dry out and crack like the old terra cotta ones. When my kid was in high school competing in the Essentially Ellington Competition, each one of the trumpet players had one of these in a different color. The trumpet section "rainbow" proved to be quite a hit. |
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edisonia Regular Member
Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 67 Location: Princeton, NJ
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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The Hirschman Mutes "KR Indigo" Plunger Mute is the culmination of a decades-long quest for the best sounding, BY FAR most in tune, easiest to play, most comfortable to hold, most expressive trumpet plunger that money can buy.
"KR" are the initials of Kenny Rampton, world-renowned trumpet player and long-standing member of the Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra under the direction of Wynton Marsalis. Kenny co-designed this plunger with Hirschman Mutes, incorporating feedback from some of today's top trumpet players.
https://artofsoundmusic.com/other/mutes/hirschman-mutes-kr-indigo-trumpet-plunger-mute |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 9:19 am Post subject: |
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edisonia wrote: | The Hirschman Mutes "KR Indigo" Plunger Mute is the culmination of a decades-long quest for the best sounding, BY FAR most in tune, easiest to play, most comfortable to hold, most expressive trumpet plunger that money can buy.
"KR" are the initials of Kenny Rampton, world-renowned trumpet player and long-standing member of the Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra under the direction of Wynton Marsalis. Kenny co-designed this plunger with Hirschman Mutes, incorporating feedback from some of today's top trumpet players.
https://artofsoundmusic.com/other/mutes/hirschman-mutes-kr-indigo-trumpet-plunger-mute |
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Dink Regular Member
Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 55 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 2:10 pm Post subject: KR plunger mute |
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The KR Indigo Max can be played with a straight mute. The " Kenny Penny" feature lets you adjust the size of the vent hole. It sounds great. I have one on order. Cost is 40.01 _________________ DripLip
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topazann New Member
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 7:08 am Post subject: |
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I've been using the same Humes & Berg Stonelined "Trixie" plunger mute for 9 years or so. SKU 113. The rubber is still pliable and hasn't dried out like every hardware store plunger I bought during my initial search. Also, the ring handle has been invaluable for keeping the mute at the ready for songs where I switch back and forth from muted to open.
regards, onplanners
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zaferis Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Mutec MHT160 Rubber Trumpet Plunger Mute
For me this has the best all-round sound and use, especially with my Bach Commercial Trumpet (the bell is slightly larger). Big enough and deep enough to get a great "cupped" tone, a small vent built in, and the nub is designed for easy grip-easier to control. _________________ Freelance Performer/Educator
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Crazy Finn Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/drain-cleaning-tools/plumbing-snakes-augers/plumb-works-reg-sink-plunger/sp-12307/p-1444421417619-c-8514.htm
I use this one. 4", Black - I cut a hole through were the stick would go. Works great as far as plungers go.
When I was in college a few colleagues had actual plunger mutes. I tried them and thought my sink plunger worked at least 90% as well. I lost my original some years ago, and bought the one linked above last year. It works great and is black (and costs less about 10% of actual mute).
I thought about the Mutec as I could get one for not too much more, but I don't think I'll bother. _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
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etc-etc Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Crazy Finn wrote: | https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/drain-cleaning-tools/plumbing-snakes-augers/plumb-works-reg-sink-plunger/sp-12307/p-1444421417619-c-8514.htm
I use this one. 4", Black - I cut a hole through were the stick would go. Works great as far as plungers go.
When I was in college a few colleagues had actual plunger mutes. I tried them and thought my sink plunger worked at least 90% as well. I lost my original some years ago, and bought the one linked above last year. It works great and is black (and costs less about 10% of actual mute).
I thought about the Mutec as I could get one for not too much more, but I don't think I'll bother. |
Lovely item, particularly the $ 0.22 mail-in rebate. How much is the postal stamp? |
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