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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:38 pm Post subject: Method book for jazz students |
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Looking for suggestions for method books for teaching basic jazz concepts to students. The kids interested are 8-9th grade.
In addition to Jamie Abersold’s books, other ideas?
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Brad, in my experience that's a tough age group. They don't have much technique or maturity. There are lots of materials but I'm not sure if they go down to that age.
If it were me, I'd spend most of my time getting them doing lots of guided listening. Maybe some call (you) and response (them) stuff and work on the blues and slow moving, chord-wise, modal stuff. I'd spend time singing heads and rhythms.
I'd spend most of my organized time in interactions with the improvisor, keeing in mind that Jazz is an aural art. And you can supplement this with the Aebersold Play-Alongs, which have some good modal and blue workouts. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"Well, even if I could play like Wynton, I wouldn't play like Wynton." Chet Baker
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falado Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, I use Essential Elements 2000. It has a rhythm section CD. It has rhythmic and scale exercises and takes the students thought playing swing and improvisation. It’s an easy series of books to start with.
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TrumpetMD Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Method book for jazz students |
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Brad361 wrote: | Looking for suggestions for method books for teaching basic jazz concepts to students. The kids interested are 8-9th grade.
In addition to Jamie Abersold’s books, other ideas?
Brad |
That's how I started, and at about the same age (9th or 10th grade). Aebersold volume one is pretty straight-forward. Some basic concepts, scales, and patterns. And most of the passages are on the easy side (simple modal passages and blues).
I'd love to hear what others have used.
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Bach Stradivarius 184 Cornet (1988), Yamaha 13E4 Mouthpiece
Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns. |
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Richard III Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Start with very early jazz. Play along with recordings. Progress through time using the same method. Listening and playing is everything. _________________ Richard
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theslawdawg Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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If you are looking for a printed jazz method, it won't hurt to check out Eric Bolvin's site. _________________ My go-to Trumpet and Flugel: Thane.
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Yamahaguy Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce Pearson's jazz ensemble series works really well in conjunction with the
Standard of Excellence method books. There's alot of helpful material
regarding rhythms, ear training, and improvisation. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Richard III wrote: | Start with very early jazz. Play along with recordings. Progress through time using the same method. Listening and playing is everything. |
Just a ide comment on pedagogy. I do not teach from a chronological way, rather to take a kid in today's mainstream where s/he may be most familiar with and then go in both directions, forward reaching and older styles. I would seek what they are most familiar with and then go out from there. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"Well, even if I could play like Wynton, I wouldn't play like Wynton." Chet Baker
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
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Heim Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Yamahaguy wrote: | Bruce Pearson's jazz ensemble series works really well in conjunction with the
Standard of Excellence method books. There's alot of helpful material
regarding rhythms, ear training, and improvisation. |
I second that motion. Standard of Excellence Jazz Ensemble Method. In Smart Music it is listed as Standard of Excellence Jazz Ensemble. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:01 am Post subject: |
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Jim Snidero's various Jazz Conception volumes are very good. _________________ Bach trumpet artist-clinician
Clinical Professor of Jazz Trumpet, University of Illinois
Professor Emeritus of Jazz Studies, Indiana University Jacobs School of Music
Faculty Jamey Aebersold Jazz Workshops 1976-2019
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Jaw04 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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For group playing, the Real Easy Book 3-horn edition is really great. It has very simple arrangements of standards with head, backgrounds, shout chorus, and chord changes. Other than that should be a lot of learning by rote and listening. |
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gwood66 Veteran Member
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FreddieSullivan New Member
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I think that the main thing is an individual approach. It's hard to follow common rules in teaching. Also, sometimes I use https://edubirdie.com/write-papers-for-money resource. It provides not only papers for money but also other necessary academic services and helps which are very useful for students and teachers. |
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