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hibidogrulez
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:11 am    Post subject: Mouthpiece for salsa/latin Reply with quote

As a curiosity question, do any of you play salsa/latin regularly? If so, what kind of tone do you prefer (raw ad sharp or a bit more round) and what equipment do you use to get that sound, if any?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I do, but it's been a few months! I usually play with a salsa/son group with just one other horn, a trombone. Sometimes we play small sets where I am the only horn. Other times we have a couple trombones and 2 trumpets. Anyways, finding the right sound is a challenge. I need to have a full sound that sounds good with the trombone, but I also need to be able to cut through and play aggressive, burning above the staff.
I struggled a long time balancing those two things. I am not naturally I powerful brass player. I have a good ear and a nice sound and know how to play, but it's hard for me to blow the house down.. When I played a deep mouthpiece I sounded great on octave mambo lines with the trombone but was a little bit weak when I went to let it rip on a solo. If I put in my Bobby Shew lead, I could get a nice sizzling sound all day but was not pleased with my playing on lower stuff. If I was in a trumpet section, I could do one or the other, but as the only trumpet player it was a challenge to be able to cover so much ground sonically.
To answer your question, I think it depends if you are playing in a section or playing alone. If you are the only trumpet player, I think you have freedom to pick whatever sound-model and equipment you are comfortable with and just develop that with experience. If I'm looking for a more screamy lead salsa sound in a section that has other trumpets, I go with Yamaha Bobby Shew lead and the 8310Z. If I'm playing with trombone, I can't blend well on that gear and would use something bigger.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, a lot of salsa trumpet players I've bumped into don't play tiny mouthpieces. I've seen great trumpet players playing Schilke, Bach, whatever, often Bach C or D cups.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello
having to play the lead parts & solo, i want a bright not aggressive sound
best
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Jaw04: That's quite some food for thought. Thanks for sharing!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a member of two salsa bands and one merengue band. I use a Schilke S32 trumpet and about a 3C, sometimes a little shallower & tighter. It depends on how much lead playing I've been doing. I really like my Purviance 4*K4, but I have to be playing it regularly to play well all night. Otherwise, I've used a Warburton 4MC/NY, HornTrader 3CS-28, or Northern Brass/GR 4-66 ****. I could use my Greg Black 3C, no problem as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was playing Latin music for a living ( in the '70's in Chicago) I played a Benge 5X trumpet and a Giardinelli 7M mouthpiece or a Purviance 4*K4. I played in Salsa and Mexican cumbia bands. I went for a fat but bright sound. Any number of combinations could work to accomplish the desired sound, comfort and range. Parduba was popular with many of the Latin guys
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Have a Good Friend Chris Sanchez who has his on professional salsa band Salsa Fusion and for years he has payed a GR 64.7 S a lot of cushion and works well for him.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There not all the same; I play in typically 3 different bands playing latin music;One is a large group (4tpts,4 saxs) and the music is pretty much natural sound with a bit of amplification;With that band,it seems not much different then playing regular big band music.
Another band,a latin jazz band,we play also with moderate amplification,unless there`s a real"Houdini" running the clubs sound board;That band is Tpt, Bone& Sax;
The 3rd band I play with is a different animal all together.That one is very amplified,almost to rock band levels; For that group I usually come out of there thinking that I should have edgy equipment;If I was playing with that band only,I probably would go shallow;I dont really like playing into reflectors ..But for that kind of situation,bright is right!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, I prefer a brilliant sound and being a Cuban I've played with a lot of the greats in my country, for example my good friend Gerardo Enriquez which is the lead trumpet player for Marc Anthony play a GR e64SZ and he sound as big as a house and play Double C's all night long. There are in Cuba two of the most respected lead trumpets there and one play a GR66M and the other a Bach 7E and they sound impressive!! I guess you should get a middle of the road mouthpiece and try it in a few gigs to see how you feel (and sound) and then decide which direction you will need to take: shallower or deeper piece. For me it's a Patrick 81M and when things get serious I take the 81S top.
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hibidogrulez
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

juanc wrote:
I guess you should get a middle of the road mouthpiece and try it in a few gigs to see how you feel (and sound) and then decide which direction you will need to take: shallower or deeper piece.

That's good advice, I'll try that. The BestBrass7E mouthpiece I play just doesn't do it for latin usic for me. It's too raw and bluesy for proper latin. I'll switch to my classical pieces and train my endurance.
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