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jicetp
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 Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:08 am Post subject: Embouchure threshold |
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Hi
Lately, I have been very diligent about my practice and try to avoid forcing anything in my playing.
I have this ' break ' at around Eb/E where I cant go higher the same way I play lower. I mean I have to force/change something to get past that point.
How can I overcome this ? Any tips ?
Thanks
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epoustoufle
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| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:03 am Post subject: Re: Embouchure threshold |
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| jicetp wrote: | Hi
Lately, I have been very diligent about my practice and try to avoid forcing anything in my playing.
I have this ' break ' at around Eb/E where I cant go higher the same way I play lower. I mean I have to force/change something to get past that point.
How can I overcome this ? Any tips ?
Thanks
JiCe |
As well as diligent routines, perhaps spend a little time being experimental. Try hitting the high D just a single staccato note. Feel how your body / emchouchure brace for the note. Rest a few seconds or a minute and try it again. Move to the Eb. Then the E. See if you can feel what is going on in your embouchure - try subtle variations if the E doesn't speak, to try to figure out what your body/embouchure needs to do. |
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Vin DiBona
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Scales, arpeggios, lip slurs, and air flow studies.
The air flow must be continued and controlled in the upper register. Corner must stay firm, but the aperture must be loose and instantly adjustable.
No tension in the body anywhere or you will shut down.
It can take years to develop a strong upper register and it is never achieved by over-blowing.
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jicetp
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My premise is that my embouchure isnt set for playing above D/E.
It might be a 'physiological ' thing, but Id rather think I can overcome this by ' tweaking' something.
It's that something that I want to discover.
Maybe its jaw position, mouthpiece placement...whatever
I have thought about this and have some things to experiment with
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Chuck's Committee
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:17 am Post subject: Embouchure for high notes |
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I think that I'll try a radical embouchure/lip change/air flow/ jaw location, mouthpiece and experiment to find where it gets me. Honestly, I have never had a need to play above F for any reason. I would like to experiment though.
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Do something with every note you play. Sometimes the rests are more important than the notes |
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jicetp
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Might have found something...
In a similar fashion, range went up from E to F#/G...... |
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Rod Haney
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| jicetp wrote: | My premise is that my embouchure isnt set for playing above D/E.
It might be a 'physiological ' thing, but Id rather think I can overcome this by ' tweaking' something.
It's that something that I want to discover.
Maybe its jaw position, mouthpiece placement...whatever
I have thought about this and have some things to experiment with
thanks |
I’d suggest spending 50$ on a Skype lesson with Bobby Shew. He can explain what needs to happen to hit higher range notes and give you some techniques to find your way there. Wish I’d found him 50 years ago, my career would have taken a different path (maybe good?).
Rod |
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