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JonathanM Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 2022 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Tony; Could you give some specific examples of mouthpieces you like for the flugel? I have a couple of Reeves pieces that are of modest depth, a shallower Curry (have the deeper Curry as well but like something that liberates the horns overtones a bit more thoroughly) that I like. And of all things, a Callet flugel mouthpiece that is a shocker; farily large drill size but matched well with a not-too-large cup.
But what do you like when you play, particularly in the instances that you offered above? And if you alter the drill size, or could share your preference there, I'd be happy to hear. Thanks in advance. _________________ Jonathan Milam
Trumpets: 18043B, 18043*, 18043 Sterling Silver +, 18037 SterlingSilver+, Benge 4x, Olds: '34 Symphony, '47 Super, '52 Recording, '52 Mendez
Flugle: Strad 182
Puje: American Belle
Cornet: Olds Recording & Super |
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Liberty Lips Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 991
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Flugel mouthpieces |
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Tony Scodwell wrote: | This is my opinion on the flugelhorn mouthpiece selection.
Obviously those favoring extremely deep flugel mouthpieces have never been in a playing situation like:
A cold showroom and picking up the horn cold to play unisons with flutes.
Soloing with an orchestra in the same cold/cool conditions.
Playing flugelhorn lead with a chart written by the arranger up to D's and E's above the staff ( Don Menza comes to mind when playing in his band).
These are the reasons I advocate a medium cup depth on the flugel. A extreme deep mouthpiece certainly gives the dark sound some like but in actual performance conditions that makes life more difficult.
Tony Scodwell
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Your point is well taken, but it seems to me that having more than one flugelhorn mouthpiece to accommodate various real-life situations is a reasonable solution. |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8939 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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In my earlier post I suggested the Reeves HF which is on the extreme end of things. My opinion is based on a brief playing of a friend's. While I loved the exotic sound I can tell it might be a bit harder to wrangle in some situations. So I might be inclined to use it only for certain solos (not in unison with the flutes) and to keep with my Yamaha 14F4 for all other settings. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart |
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Stephen Haynes Regular Member
Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 31 Location: Hartford, CT
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:26 pm Post subject: Flugelhorn Mouthpieces |
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At the moment, Stork Vacchiano mouthpieces are lighting up my flugelhorns - both Bb (Schilke) and Eb soprano (Courtois). Great design and affordable price, coupled with the deep knowledge and teaching/consults of/with Phyllis Stork. Highly recommended. _________________ Stephen Haynes
Schilke Artist
Schilke XA1 Cornet
Schilke Soprano Cornet
Schilke 1040 FL-S Flugelhorn
Schilke X4L Tuning Bell Trumpet
& a host of vintage cornets, flugelhorns and low brass
Stork Custom Vacchiano Mouthpieces |
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Voltrane Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 633 Location: Paris (France)
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: Flugelhorn Mouthpieces |
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Stephen Haynes wrote: | At the moment, Stork Vacchiano mouthpieces are lighting up my flugelhorns - both Bb (Schilke) and Eb soprano (Courtois). Great design and affordable price, coupled with the deep knowledge and teaching/consults of/with Phyllis Stork. Highly recommended. |
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I play a 2FLS with my Couesnon and so I can “play unison with the flutes” even in winter _________________ S’il n’en reste qu’un je serai celui là (Victor Hugo)
Je m’empresse d’en rire de peur d’avoir à en pleurer (Beaumarchais) |
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delano Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 3118 Location: The Netherlands
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dstpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 1292
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:08 am Post subject: |
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What an inspirational thought...perfect for the holidays!
Actually, thank you for sharing these recordings of Branimir Slokar; gorgeous sound and musicality.
I may take some of these pieces and adapt them for my custom 3+1 flugel with triggers for wedding and church preludes with organ. Cool idea!
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delano Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 3118 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Branimir Slokar was my hero for years in my former trombone life |
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