Mpc suggestions appreciated

ricoboogie · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:43 pm Post subject: Mpc suggestions appreciated

Hi all. My primary mouthpieces are a Yamaha 14c4 and a Denis Wick 4x. I like them both for different reasons: the 4x has a super comfortable rim for my sausage lips, while the Yammy has a much warmer sound, which I actually prefer.

My question to you all is, what mpc would you suggest that might give me the best of both worlds? A nice, warm round tone, as well as a wide rim for comfort?

One caveat: I'm mostly interested in one piece mouthpieces. Suggestions for modular equipment won't be turned away but I get quite overwhelmed with all the different options on those things, so I tend to avoid them.

Thanks!

wilder · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:53 pm Post subject:

Hi. I don't like 2,3 piece mps either. Call SCHILKE and they will tell you what to get from a dealer. YAMAHA mps are SCHILKE clones but not as extensive. jw

chrisf3000 · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:41 pm Post subject:

Greg Black makes a mouthpiece designed for people with larger lips as well as those with braces. It's called the 'BP' mouthpiece (not sure, but maybe short for 'braces piece'?). In any case, this sounds like it's what you might be looking for. Super comfortable, wide rim and nice tone. I had a student break down in tears once in a lesson thanking me for suggesting it - made a world of difference.

It comes in two sizes - a 3c model and a 1-1/2c model. Before anyone says "Ya, sure, if you can get a hold of Greg", East Coast Trumpets sells them as a reseller. Maybe reach out to them and see what they say - they even ship to Canada! Good luck and let us know what you end up with.

zaferis · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:45 pm Post subject:

I fall on the side of having one rim- size and shape. It simplifies moving from one to the other. The two mouthpieces you've noted, to me have a sharp-ish bite.
A Yamaha 14C4 has much more bite than a 14B4.

One maker that maintains the same "feel" within a rim size is Mark Curry. You can play a 3C on for all-around stuff and drop to a 3*(star) for a shallow piece (show / commercial work) then a 3DE for picc.. and they feel the same on your chops.

I think of Schilke, Reeves, and Warburton when talking about pieces with less bite - "more comfortable"
Just remember there are always give and takes. More comfort might affect articulation, flexibility, or other aspects.

Bottom line, is that we're all different.. You'll have to balance sound, playability, and comfort with the piece that works for you and your wants.
There is no magic equation to find the "best" for you.

Many teachers (myself included) have a collection of mouthpieces to experiment with - it might help you home in on a good fit without ending up with a box of mouthpieces.
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blbaumgarn · Heavyweight Member Joined: 26 Jul 2017 Posts: 705

In here it's to each his own, but I have yet to try a two piece anything either. I believe it is because I am easily confused I think. Trying to balance positives and negatives from two pieces? I get bad mental pictures in the head. "Well, the mouthpiece plays like a great Curry 3 and it would have that neat double inverted WangDoo backbore. I need simple
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blbaumgarn · Heavyweight Member Joined: 26 Jul 2017 Posts: 705

In here it's to each his own, but I have yet to try a two piece anything either. I believe it is because I am easily confused. Trying to balance positives and negatives from two pieces? I get bad mental pictures in the head. "Well, the mouthpiece plays like a great Curry 3 and it would have that neat double inverted WangDoo back bore. I need simple
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wilder · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:54 pm Post subject:

Greg told me it stands for "back pressure". It's designed for kids with braces. jw

ricoboogie · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:35 am Post subject:

ricoboogie · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:37 am Post subject:

underdog · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:19 am Post subject: Mouthpiece options

Greg Black is great and he's a friend. He makes great equipment. The guys at East Coast Trumpets are great as well. Knowledgable and good guys.

You can also check out my mouthpieces here.

https://patrickmouthpieces.com/store/#ecwid:category=2605555&mode=category&offset=0&sort=normal

For what you're after I would definitely recommend a one piece, specifically for what you're looking for, the PATRICK 3Z

That said, there are good reasons to use a two piece models in commercial form. Feel free to ask questions and I'll do my best to answer.
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JVL · Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:16 am Post subject:

hello
for me, the best comfy rims are Marcinkiewicz'
You can email them, to Graham Middleton
best

Jmenc · New Member Joined: 06 Sep 2020 Posts: 5

For me it’s Bob Reeves. They were a game changer for me, and great to work with on the phone.

Bryant Jordan · Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:23 pm Post subject:

The most comfortable rim I've played on is my AR Resonance. I have the MC size (look in my bio), but don't know how comfortable the other size rims would be. The sound is fantastic...probably the best piece I've every played.

HaveTrumpetWillTravel · Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:42 pm Post subject:

I have some Wicks and they do seem to have a wide, comfortable rim. If you're looking for warmer, you may just want a deeper cup. The 4x is really shallow, right? That's pretty much eliminates "warm." In this case you'd look at the 4b, 4, or MM4C. Same rim but with different depths and backbores.

Happy hunting!

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BobD · Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:50 pm Post subject:

I have a 14C4, 14B4 and an ACB 3C. The ACB 3C is very similar to the 14C4 but has a much more comfortable rim.
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RussellDDixon · Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:12 am Post subject:

As you can see ... the choices and options are limitless.

http://www.trumpetperformancetips.com/trumpet-mouthpiece-comparison-chart.html
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StricklandMusic · Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:00 am Post subject: