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sleehrat Regular Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:03 pm Post subject: Stork Vacchiano |
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I’m currently playing a Bach 1 1/4c and looking to try a narrower rim for flexibility. These seem like a step in the right direction. Your experiences, insights are much appreciated! _________________ "Keep a good head and always carry a light bulb." -- Bob Dylan |
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Crazy Finn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 8335 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm... to me the rim shape is equally, if not more related to flexibility than rim width. _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
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loweredsixth Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 1844 Location: Fresno, California, USA, North America, Earth, Solar System, Orion Arm, Milky Way Galaxy, Universe
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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The 1-1/4C is pretty rounded, and not wide by any means. I can’t imagine you’re going to gain any appreciable flexibility going with another rim. But Storks aren’t really all that expensive, so you might as well give them a shot. _________________ The name I go by in the real world is Joe Lewis |
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walldaja Regular Member
Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 71
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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You may want to look at Stork's Studio Masters as well. Used the Vac 1.5B for some time and recently tried an XM series. I tried an XM 2 and an XM 4. The 2 is the same size as the Vac 1.5B but about 1/4" shorter. Did all the Vac did but easier. Sent the XM 4 back. Mouthpiece Express let's you try for 15 days. _________________ Dave
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DOEL Regular Member
Joined: 22 Nov 2020 Posts: 18 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:41 am Post subject: |
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A Stork Vacchiano is an excellent choice. The rims vary but the Vacchiano 4/Studio Master 6 rim I use has a relatively sharp bite and medium-wide rim that slopes outward and it's perfect for me.
Seriously, for classical style playing, the Vacchiano line has an unbeatable sound. The richness of a Bach with the ability of a GR. _________________ 81 Bb Bach Stradivarius 37/25 ML raw - Vincent Bach Corp. 5C
03 C Bach Stradivarius 239/25A L silver - Stork 4C25C
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Bethmike Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2020 Posts: 194 Location: NW of ORD
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:14 am Post subject: Stork Vacchiano |
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I have a Stork Vacchiano on a Bach 37 with a Melk MTV525 leadpipe. Produces a wonderful sound! Even with me playing. _________________ Bach190ML43
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Pete Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2001 Posts: 1739 Location: Western Massachusetts
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Call the Storks and talk to them. They are good people and will steer you in the right direction. Usually, they will mail out a few mouthpieces for you to try and send back once you are done choosing.
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GO108 New Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2021 Posts: 1 Location: Cary, NC
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:09 pm Post subject: My positive experience with the Storks |
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I definitely recommend calling the Storks and speaking with Phyllis about any mouthpiece or playing issues you might experience. For someone who can keep an open mind I feel there is a great deal to learn and benefit from when considering her ideas of how physical characteristics can inform your choice of mouthpiece(s).
Personally, I benefited a great deal from Phyllis' insight and equipment recommendations to me. Some folks may not need this type of assistance but for those who are not already playing a setup that fits their physical makeup to some degree, her knowledge could make all the difference in the world. There is no substitute for proper playing/embouchure technique however in my personal experience, sometimes playing a mouthpiece that is appropriate for you can help you create your own solid embouchure.
I comfortably play a Stork 1.5 diameter rim (17.75 ID) which is very large however the resistance is balanced with a shallower cup, tight throat and tighter backbore. Most players would not thrive on such a setup but for me, everything began to come together when I settled on this style mouthpiece. The rim allowed my chops to relax and it was the first time I tried a large ID mouthpiece that was not open everywhere - just open in the ID.
If you are struggling, perhaps this knowledge could be a piece of your puzzle. |
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