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richarddownunder
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 11:06 pm    Post subject: Eclipse flugel Reply with quote

Hi - I'm thinking of splashing out on a flugel - I used to play a Yamaha many (too many) years ago (can't remember the model, but it was a nice horn) and have recently had the chance to play a student Yamaha in the local band which is an OK instrument but nothing really special, as you might expect. I'm aiming to have a try of a few Bach, Getzen and Conn models which, along with Yamaha, are all that are available in the country (New Zealand) as far as I know, just to decide whether I want to part with my cash.

However, I tried an Eclipse flugel a few years ago and thought it was really very, very nice - in fact I'd probably have bought it if I wasn't already buying a trumpet (and it wasn't made for someone else). So,...has anyone compared the Eclipse sound to these more available brands? Which would it be closest to? Any thoughts on how one model or make compares with another for sound, intonation and I guess ease and enjoyment of playing.

I've listened to a few flugel players lately on-line. I don't know whether it is the way some are miced, the recording, the instrument they play or the style of playing but they can sometimes sound more raspy or trombone-like than the smooth, mellow sound I like. I do like Ruud Breuls style, who happens to play an Eclipse in this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_-F6UV1FCo
Any advice/thoughts most appreciated.
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richarddownunder
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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2021 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found this: maybe it answers my question...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:29 am Post subject: Reply with quote
For a rich, warm sound and ease of playing my vote has to go to the Eclipse. I spent a solid 6 months playing every flugelhorn I could get my hands on - Yamahas, Kanstul, Couesnon, Courtois, Bach, Geneva, Getzen, Besson, Schilke and several others. In the end I liked the Kanstul 925 but I loved the Eclipse so that's where my money went. Just wish I had more time to play it!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Follow ctgent's advice: play as many flugels as you can get your hands on.

Reading, or listening to others, is no way to decide.

Only you can decide what flugel works best for you.
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richarddownunder
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops - I think I posted this in the wrong place so have reposted in the horns section.
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Bob Stevenson
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 'Eclipse' flugel is the single most exciting and special brass instrument that I have ever played during my 50+ years of playing. I tried out all three of the Eclipse flugels shortly after they were launched at the Eclipse factory in Luton,...Leigh McKenniey came and sat on a stoll with a cigarette to listen and we chatted about his flugel designs, although I was there about a cornet repair. I mentioned that the only other flugel that I had played which came close was the B&S and Leigh told me that it has been the 'design pilot' in developing his flugels. I did not care too much for the Eclipse with copper bell but the other two;...red brass and 'ordinary' (yellow) brass are the most spectacular sounding and exciting instruments to play.....completely expressive!

The Eclipse flugel was £2000 that day when I played it for about an hour and I keep thinking of it nearly 10 years (?) later and often feel regret that it never became part of my life although I had no use for a flugel at the time.
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Brassnose
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting statement about the B&S. I have never played an Eclipse flugel but I really like the B&S FBX and also think the 3145 and 17/2TR are good instruments. Would be nice to know which one is the one with the Eclipse-touch.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a scratched gold Eclipse flugel and it played as good as it looked. Fabulous instrument. A full time, professional trumpet playing friend tried it and asked to buy it. As I was looking to buy a new trumpet, I foolishly agreed. I regretted it the second he drove away with it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There’s a nice one for sale on eBay. Although it’s in Florida, postage to NZ to consider.
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