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barryj1 Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:09 am Post subject: slide adjustment for low D |
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Just a quick question. Is there any advantage to using either the first or the third valve slide to adjust the pitch for the D below the staff? _________________ Getzen 800DLX cornet
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Danbassin Veteran Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2013 Posts: 460 Location: Idyllwild, CA
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:19 am Post subject: |
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Yes, depending on context:
If you're playing a trill from the leading tone in Eb-Major for whatever key horn you're playing. There, having the 3rd slide in the right position for a in-tune tonic Eb is important, and you can adjust the leading tone D with the 1st slide. There are other, similar situations where this kind of logic would prevail. Aside from the scope of the question in the original post, I'm probably not alone in having a 3rd slide pull setting that I use for D alone, to which I add a 1st slide pull for C#, with the 3rd slide in relatively the same position for both - tonal context depending.
Happy practicing - in 'all' 12 keys and more!
-DB _________________ Daniel Bassin
Conductor/Composer/Trumpeter/Improviser/Educator
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barryj1 Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Dan.
That's what I originally thought but needed to hear it from someone with a better handle on the fundamentals.
Barry _________________ Getzen 800DLX cornet
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Danbassin Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:48 am Post subject: |
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barryj1 wrote: | Thanks Dan.
That's what I originally thought but needed to hear it from someone with a better handle on the fundamentals.
Barry |
Anytime!
If you want to apply this to certain Clarke studies (and superimpose minor keys on the exercises), you can determine how fast you'd want to make an adjustment with either first or third slides, as well as certain 'in the middle' positions necessary for quick runs in 'bad keys.'
Best,
-DB _________________ Daniel Bassin
Conductor/Composer/Trumpeter/Improviser/Educator
I play:
Monette - CORNETTE/PranaXLT-STC Bb/MC-35/Raja A Piccolo;
Kromat C-Piccolo; Thein G-Piccolo; Various antique horns
MPCs - Monette Unity 1-7D and DM4LD |
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PMonteiro Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:47 am Post subject: |
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This might just be in my head, but I feel I get a slightly fuller tone with 3rd vs. 1st. Otherwise, 1st works better for playing the note quickly or any surrounding note requires 1st, such as F or A. _________________ YTR-6335HSII
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JayKosta Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Dec 2018 Posts: 3310 Location: Endwell NY USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:00 am Post subject: |
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PMonteiro wrote: | ... but I feel I get a slightly fuller tone with 3rd vs. 1st. Otherwise, ... |
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Changing the slide locations will affect how the instrument vibrates, and it might also change your hand grip placement and tightness.
There's also the issue of where the internal standing wave nodes occur depending on what slides are moved. Valve alignment issues might also be involved.
This is probably a case of 'do what works best for you' - similar to adjusting the tightness of the water key screw. _________________ Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'. |
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Vin DiBona Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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PMonteiro.
If if sounds better, it is better.
Keep doing what you are doing and not worry about anything but the pitch and the sound. Don't over-analyze.
I was taught this over 50 years ago and it holds true today.
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