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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2002 Posts: 10204 Location: The Land Beyond O'Hare
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:09 am Post subject: What Is This? |
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It’s noon on a Saturday and I’m in a popular bar in Madison, WI on game day and the music is so loud I can’t hear my food. Is is rock, is it hip hop or funk?
It’s definitely not jazz. I’m a little buzzed on Spotted Cow but this I know: I’m not understanding this century. _________________ Jim Hatfield
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9033 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:39 am Post subject: |
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It's a noisy culture, Jim.
I couldn't believe the contrast after a couple of decades in Germany. Loud commercials, TV shows with cars exploding, even newscasters or Congressmen raising their voices to almost a shout when just "speaking normally".
To me, the sound pallet is silence, into which sounds are added. Here in America, today, it's noise as the basic pallet which must be sounded over, yet.
For me it sucks. Sign of the times. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1931 Location: WI
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:37 am Post subject: |
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I'm with you both! I was in a restaurant a while back where the piped 'music' was so loud that I thought I was in a dance club or at a rock concert.
As far as I am concerned, sub-woofers so 'cranked up' that the floor throbs do not make for a pleasant dining experience. |
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Richard III Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 2655 Location: Anacortes, WA
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:54 am Post subject: |
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In places like that during the day, I ask them to lower the volume. They usually comply. _________________ Richard
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1931 Location: WI
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Richard III wrote: | In places like that during the day, I ask them to lower the volume. They usually comply. |
True. I've had some luck with that in some places. But at night, when there is a large crowd that seems to prefer the volume, such a request is less likely to be honored.
The question in my mind is, "Why would anybody ever prefer such loud music in a dining establishment at any time of the day or night?" Which I guess means that I am not understanding this century either. |
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HERMOKIWI Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:45 am Post subject: |
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This is why we have a life expectancy: So we don't have to put up with like this kind of thing forever. It's all laid out in the Master Plan. _________________ HERMOKIWI |
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1931 Location: WI
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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HERMOKIWI wrote: | This is why we have a life expectancy: So we don't have to put up with like this kind of thing forever. It's all laid out in the Master Plan. |
I knew there had to be an upside to death somewhere! This afternoon the sun shines brighter for me thanks to you. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9033 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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HERMOKIWI wrote: | This is why we have a life expectancy: So we don't have to put up with like this kind of thing forever. It's all laid out in the Master Plan. |
_________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Oncewasaplayer Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:05 am Post subject: |
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This post is not about the type of music played in restaurants but simply about the volume. I've done some food writing over the years and the issue of loud music in dining restaurants is interesting and ongoing. As I age, my hearing doesn't allow me to hear a conversation if there is a louder source of sound. I find this experience unpleasant. However, younger people (restaurant managers) will explain that loud music adds an important energy to a room which attracts customers. Of course, it only attracts a younger crowd (with skinny wallets) and excludes the older audience (with fatter wallets). Covid has opened up patio dining which offer better locations for conversation. One food writer I know would try to mention the volume in the restaurant in her reviews in order to clue in the reader about the experience but her editor (a younger person) didn't like that and always took it out. _________________ Getzen 800DLX cornet
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1931 Location: WI
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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For me, it is not about conversation, because I frequently dine out alone. Overly loud music simply interferes with my digestion. Also, now that you mention it, the type of music is at times a factor. I find the simplistic, predictable chord progressions and the overwrought, "soulful" singing style of most pop-rock to be boring to the point of annoyance. (I do enjoy the kind of alternative and progressive rock I hear on my local independent radio station, lest you think I simply hate all rock music.) |
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Dave_3 Regular Member
Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Posts: 64 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:12 am Post subject: |
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If I walk into a restaurant and it's too loud, I turn around and leave.
Plenty of places to dine in the world, and I won't eat at a restaurant that is too loud (for me), any sooner than I would eat at a restaurant that serves lousy food. |
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1931 Location: WI
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Dave_3 wrote: | If I walk into a restaurant and it's too loud, I turn around and leave. |
I've done that too, when practical. |
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