Joined: 16 Feb 2018 Posts: 41 Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:42 pm Post subject: Bach 180S37, 180S43, or Getzen 3050S
Any fellow trumpeters out there with experiences with the Bach 180S37, 180S43, and Getzen 3050S. Looking into one of these horns for all around playing. For the most part, it has to be a blind purchase because of COVID and lack of options at my local music stores.
I’ve been playing on a reverse leadpipe 43 Bach Strad since high school (nearly 25 years). I liked the 43 better than the 37 and 72 versions that I played. For me, the Bach was also more comfortable than the Getzen that I tried, but I’m not sure what model it was.
I will say that for all around use, my 43 with the lightweight body from the reverse leadpipe tends to play brighter naturally. So depending on which way you lean, that would be something to consider.
The 18037, 18043 and Getzen 3050 are all fine horns. Too bad you cannot try them as there is no way to know which is a better match for you without playing them.
If you are really going to have to buy without trying and have not played any of them before I would suggest the Bach 18037. That is far and away the most popular model because it meets the needs of a wide range of players and playing styles. It is also easy to sell and maintains its price well if in good condition.
Just in case my impressions are useful:
Compared to the 18037, I find the 18043 to be a bit brighter with a sound that spreads slightly more.
The 18037 and 3050 are quite similar. My recollection is that the 3050 was just a bit warmer and slightly more free-blowing with the best valve block in the industry. It does not have the same...core...to the sound that the Bach has. That's not good or bad...just different...but don't get the Getzen thinking that you're getting a Bach 18037 with better valves.
Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 2416 Location: Maryland
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Bach 180S37, 180S43, or Getzen 3050S
time_is_mula wrote:
Any fellow trumpeters out there with experiences with the Bach 180S37, 180S43, and Getzen 3050S. Looking into one of these horns for all around playing. For the most part, it has to be a blind purchase because of COVID and lack of options at my local music stores.
I own a Bach 43* (my main horn) and a Bach 37. Both good horns. Either would be a safe choice, if you're not sure what to play.
Here's a nice video of Georgina Jackson comparing the 37 to the 43. I like the way she describes the differences. The 37 is more consistent, with a solid sound throughout its range. The 43 is more pliable, with more sizzle if you push it.
I've also tried a several of the Getzen Custom trumpets, including the 3050. The 3050 is comparable to the Bach 37, and is a reasonable choice, especially if you like Getzen trumpets.
Mike _________________ Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
Bach Stradivarius 184 Cornet (1988), Yamaha 13E4 Mouthpiece
Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns.
Joined: 16 Aug 2011 Posts: 858 Location: Johnson City Tn
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:49 pm Post subject:
Out of those I would pick a 43, but I much prefer the 72 bell over them. It's my favorite bell Bach makes for the Bb bells. _________________ Current horns
2023 Bach 19072G/43 pipe with 1st trigger
1966 H.N. White King Silver Flair
1965 H.N. White King Super 20 Sllversonic Symphony 1st trigger
IMO: You can't go wrong with a 180S37, a good all 'round Bb horn that will sell when you want, kind of like a Ford F-150. I've not played any 190's so I'm blind there. My only Getzen horn was a high school issue and I have no idea of what model it was or enough info/experience to give any opinion on them.
I love my Schilke B6, and probably play it the most (at my age the efficiency really pays off) but there is no way I'm letting go of my 30+ yr. old 180S37. It's just a good 'go-to' horn especially if I need to blend into a group.
You will never get a sideways glance for bringing a 37 to any gig. A good 37 can do most things your average trumpet player would need to do and blend well while doing them.
I like the 43 bell a lot behind the bell, but I do not sound good on it from in front of the bell. Too shrill with my particular tone.
Never played the Getzen, but if you buy it I hope you like it because the Getzen resale market is not as booming as the resale market for Bach or Yamaha. _________________ Bach 37
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