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Satchel Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 6:46 am Post subject: Anyone does the "twirl"? |
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Neat onstage trick, by Mr Collier:
https://youtu.be/2tEobvw8-A8?t=155[youtube]https://youtu.be/2tEobvw8-A8?t=155[/youtube] |
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Crazy Finn Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Nope. _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
Selmer Radial Bb Trumpet
Yamaha 6335S Bb Trumpet
Besson 709 Bb Trumpet
Bach 184L Bb Cornet
Yamaha 731 Bb Flugelhorn |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 7080 Location: Houston, TX.
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 6:35 am Post subject: |
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Those guys have a separate ring soldered on their horns to do that.
And it would be a “nope” from me too, even though I play in a somewhat similar type band.
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9193 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 6:56 am Post subject: |
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My ring is not soldered. I leave the horn stationary while I twirl around it. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"Well, even if I could play like Wynton, I wouldn't play like Wynton." Chet Baker
Adams A-9 Trumpet
Benge 3X Cornet
Getzen Capri Cornet (for sale). |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | My ring is not soldered. I leave the horn stationary while I twirl around it. |
Ok……
I know I saw a horn for sale somewhere that allegedly had been owned by one of the guys in James Brown’s band, I think it was an older King, it had an extra ring soldered to the third valve, to use to spin or twirl the horn.
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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Shark01 Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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We did spinning all the time in the 70s with no modifications at all. Every now and then a trumpet would clang down the metallic bleacher seats when it would fall off someone's finger during a game.
The other thing we did back then that is probably not allowed today is the guillotine.....if you weren't paying attention you would get smacked in the face by the trumpet next to you. Damn it looked good though, worth some dental work. |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 7080 Location: Houston, TX.
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Shark01 wrote: | We did spinning all the time in the 70s with no modifications at all. Every now and then a trumpet would clang down the metallic bleacher seats when it would fall off someone's finger during a game.
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Which is exactly why I would not do it.😵💫
But hey, if you’re using an old, “throw down” horn, go for it…..I guess.
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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RandyTX Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 5304 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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I'll admit that I used to do this, way back in high school. On a strad, you can tighten down the 3rd slide nuts all the way and it's pretty easy. Before anyone freaks out too badly, I was doing it with my own instrument, bought from the money I made at my after-school job, not risking train-wrecking a horn my folks paid for.
No disaster ever occurred, but I've not really done it since then, either, and I still own the same trumpet today. Old school band director, only used trumpets in stage band or on a football field, the cornet was the preferred instrument and more to be preserved and kept undamaged. /shrug
One weird little historical footnote. Found the sales receipt and what I paid for it back when I was a sophomore in H.S. and back when you could walk into a music store and try out 15-20 trumpets in person, or however many you had time to sample, before buying one. Put that sales amount into an inflation calculator, and was pretty surprised to learn that the current day brand new Bach 37 sells for basically exactly the same (retail) as it did a little over 40 years ago. It's not about material costs, or skilled labor, or minimum wage, apparently, but purely about inflation and devaluation of the dollar over time. _________________ "Music is like candy, you throw the (w)rappers away." |
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Satchel Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Shark01 wrote: | The other thing we did back then that is probably not allowed today is the guillotine.... Damn it looked good though |
What is the guillotine? |
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Shark01 Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Satchel wrote: | Shark01 wrote: | The other thing we did back then that is probably not allowed today is the guillotine.... Damn it looked good though |
What is the guillotine? |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkU8WNAzhX8
A few videos show bands trying it, but most are doing it the lazy way. The one I posted was what were were doing in full uniform and turning perpendicular, not looping over people's heads. |
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Satchel Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 3:23 am Post subject: |
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Nice! I imagine there being a few bad bruises and chipped teeth, and the instrument repairman rubbing his hands watching rehearsals |
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homebilly Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 6:35 am Post subject: |
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i prefer spinners _________________ ron meza (deadbeat jazz musician) & (TH 5 post ghost neighborhood watch ringleader)
waiting for Fed-Ex to deliver a $50 trumpet to my door. shipping was prepaid by seller of course!
http://ronmeza.com
http://highdefinitionbigband.com |
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