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MahlerMAD Regular Member
Joined: 20 Dec 2020 Posts: 18 Location: Stonehaven, northeast Scotland
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:07 am Post subject: Which ‘modern’ method? |
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Hey folks,
Greetings from the UK! I’ve got the Arban’s Platinum method, and Merri Franquin Complete Method for Modern Trumpet. I realise myself certainly, even though my own playing standards are mediocre at best, that the Arban’s in its numerous incarnations is probably THE established trumpet method …. However, I’m just wondering if any of you more knowledgeable trumpeters out there, if you’ve explored the Franquin method, is there any aspect in which you feel it’s a superior method to the Arban? I’ve dipped in and out of both and feel that I need a second, or even third opinion on which to concentrate on for a spell?
Kind regards,
Donald 🎺🏴 _________________ Bach Strad 180, over 30 mouthpieces, and counting ..... |
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Dayton Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 2041 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:40 am Post subject: |
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For working on foundational skills, it is hard to beat Arban, particularly if you are doing so on your own. Franquin offers challenges that build on what you'll find in Arban, including increased range. |
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JayKosta Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Dec 2018 Posts: 3306 Location: Endwell NY USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:57 am Post subject: |
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The choice of instructional material depends on what you want (or need) to learn. Some books provide good exercises, etudes, etc. that can be used as practice material to improve existing skills, but might not be helpful to teach how to do the basic technique.
An important question is 'what is the problem(s) that I need to resolve'. _________________ Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'. |
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Bethmike Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2020 Posts: 194 Location: NW of ORD
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:18 am Post subject: |
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You can read this phrase on TH a thousand times - get a good teacher.
Mine gives me exercises / etudes / drills which build up my deficient areas.
It might not always be oblivious to a new player WHY you are doing a particular drill, but a good teacher creates the best method for YOU.
Mike
PS My teacher is a member here. PM me for his contact info. _________________ Bach190ML43
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9028 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:48 am Post subject: |
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^^^^^^
If you have no good teacher (and you should), get Eric Bolvin's Arban Manual. It arranges the Arban exercises in a logical order.
https://qpress.ca/product/arban-manual/
Personally, I like the series by Harold Mitchell. No hunting and seeking around hundreds of pages. It offers three graded books with balanced exercises in each lesson.
https://qpress.ca/product/mitchells-trumpet-method-books-1-4/
I notice you are in Scotland, so my links are to qPress which offers digital downloads, which should save you postage and customs.
An aside you might get a knowing laugh out of: One night in Scotland, I was in a pub that was closing and asked directions to another that might still be open. I talked to three different people and couldn't understand none of them. Finally, the bar maid took me outside, turned my body facing down the street, and gave me a push, LOL. (Americans ) _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Anthony Miller Regular Member
Joined: 01 Nov 2016 Posts: 78 Location: Ryedale, North Yorkshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Agree, Harold Mitchell's books are brilliant as a progressive method. |
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Robert P Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Feb 2013 Posts: 2596
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Which ‘modern’ method? |
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MahlerMAD wrote: | Hey folks,
Greetings from the UK! I’ve got the Arban’s Platinum method, and Merri Franquin Complete Method for Modern Trumpet. I realise myself certainly, even though my own playing standards are mediocre at best, that the Arban’s in its numerous incarnations is probably THE established trumpet method …. |
No matter what method you work from there are certain fundamentals that you need to work on - tone quality, intonation, control of attacks and releases, you need to be able to function in various keys and learn skills, develop flexibility and other skills like interval work, articulation, range etc.
There's nothing wrong with Arban's - if there's another method that gets you working on the same skills that's fine. You need a decent teacher to guide you, hopefully one who's knowledgeable in getting you past problems you might encounter. _________________ Getzen Eterna Severinsen
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Quadstriker Veteran Member
Joined: 14 Dec 2021 Posts: 108
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Anthony Miller wrote: | Agree, Harold Mitchell's books are brilliant as a progressive method. |
I've started using it for a couple months now as a developing comeback player, and I've found it very helpful in structuring my play. |
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ravel Veteran Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 127
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 4:17 am Post subject: |
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both equivalent |
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