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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:32 am    Post subject: Bass Solos Reply with quote

Our trad jazz group sounds pretty good most of the time. We mix up the keys, tempos, and vocals and keep the solos short.

One area remains problematic, however: when our bass player solos it’s like the music stops. All we hear is drums and guitar chords.

What’s the solution?

No bass solos?
Horns fill with footballs?
Bigger amp?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuba. Bass inherently is lost in a group. We had a gig yesterday and I did the mic down the bell set up with my own amp. No issues being heard.

Plus, frankly, the character of the tuba works much better in that style of music.

Funny aside. My trombone player says I play tuba like a trumpet player. It is true. I get melody solos like everyone else. Fun stuff.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuba definitely comes thru better, but they’re so heavy!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I play a Conn 10J BBb. Not heavy at all.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not quite sure what the problem is, but if it's Bass volume, just use an amp. Seems obvious to me. Also, if the bottom drops out when the Bass solo comes, perhaps your bass isn't loud enough, to begin with.

If it's a matter of audience interest, instead of a full chorus of Bass, go around the band, trading fours with the Bass.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problem is the bass player is not playing loud so bigger amp is probably the best solution. Trading fours also a good idea.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No bass solos, everybody happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

During a bass solo, the bass needs to be RELATIVELY louder. That can be accomplished by the drums and piano playing at a lower volume. I once noticed how sparsely Ellis Marsalis played during his bass player’s solos. The combination of lower volume and sparse playing from the drummer and the pianist may do the trick.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:31 am    Post subject: Re: Bass Solos Reply with quote

jhatpro wrote:
One area remains problematic, however: when our bass player solos it’s like the music stops. All we hear is drums and guitar chords.

I think this is generally true to an extent and it isn't always a problem. I don't expect the bass to project solos the way most other players do.

Things to consider...
- Band doesn't play quietly or sparsely enough
- Venue is too loud
- Bass isn't utilizing an amp well enough. EQ could be playing a roll.
- Bass isn't comfortable playing out over the group and holds back
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