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Trumpetstud Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:17 pm Post subject: Pushing too hard? |
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So, I got the CC Calisthenics for Brass book. I've been messing with 6 notes for a little while and started ex 2. I am freaking EXCITED!!! LOL I've never played above a High C that has always been it for me. Well, for sure I did the lip slur from D to E! Whoo hoo!!
So, the E is just barely squeaking out. I'm wondering if maybe i need to develop a little longer or just keep trying up to the E? Maybe i just need to stick with the C to D?
Hope all that makes sense, but man am I excited!!!
To Double High C and beyond!! oops! I mean to Infinity and beyond! ![](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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GeorgeB Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:15 am Post subject: |
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The C to D is about where my reliability in the high range ends for me and I have never had to play anything above high C since my comeback in 2016 and even then only 3 or 4 times the high C itself. I am 86 and playing an F above high C is nothing more than a "wish I could, but know I can't ". But in my younger years I could play that F and even a G now and then.
George _________________ GeorgeB
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2016 Manchester Brass Custom
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JayKosta Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:33 am Post subject: |
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A strategy is to work 1 step at a time to achieve a higher 'playing range'. I don't see much advantage in striving for more than 1 squeaker at a time. Get the lowest squeak to become playable, and then proceed.
The book uses the terminology of 'play' the notes and not force, but also talks about 'play as high as you can go'. _________________ Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'. |
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Dayton Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 2045 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | So, the E is just barely squeaking out. I'm wondering if maybe i need to develop a little longer or just keep trying up to the E? Maybe i just need to stick with the C to D? |
As long as you are following the four rules you should be fine to go for it. |
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bagmangood Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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What Dayton said - if you carefully follow the 4 rules and listen to your body (i.e. not creating strain), you should play as long as there is any sound.
There is a lot of wisdom (and related information) in the Getting Started threads pinned in this sub-forum.
Also possibly helpful is "How to Solve the Seven Common Physical Problems!" (pages 52-54 in my copy of MCFB), as it the new experiences will be unmusical until you adjust and learn how to play up there. _________________ More than one trumpet
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tomba51 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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I studied with Carmine for several years. He always told me, and I heard him tell many other students whose lessons I witnessed, to always finish the interval that you were attempting, even if no sound came out. _________________ Tom Barreca |
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gstump Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Following the rules I would suggest working on the Interval 2nds. You may not get that exhilaration of gaining the next note but you will be training the mind and muscles how to go from one note to the next.
Then the 2nds should manifest by getting that E in the harmonics to become less squeakish!
Best of luck,
Gordon Stump _________________ Schilke B5
Couesnon Flug (1967)
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