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mr oakmount Veteran Member
Joined: 10 Jun 2022 Posts: 150 Location: Europe
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 1:12 am Post subject: |
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My daily practice / take it to a rehersal where you are not sure what is required - trumpet is an old Yamaha 6335HG that my tech fitted with a gold brass leadpipe and adjustable gap receiver. It has a good core, excellent slotting and blends well with the other usual suspects. I can also dial in warmth/brightness with the cup/back bore.
That's my "middle ground horn".
From there I can see if I need more brightness/openess (Adams A5), more power or flexibility (Conn B6) or the Austro/German classical/traditional sound (Votruba rotary).
I know Yammies are often considered "vanilla" or "unexciting", but this one has never sold me short or let me down. |
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delano Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 3118 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 1:17 am Post subject: |
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mr oakmount wrote: |
I know Yammies are often considered "vanilla" or "unexciting", but this one has never sold me short or let me down. |
Fortunately that’s only a TH thing. |
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stuartissimo Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2021 Posts: 990 Location: Europe
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Olds Recording. Many players view their instrument as ‘merely a tool’. Maybe it’s the virtue of only being an amateur player, but to me this Recording means much more. The design is probably considered somewhat quirky these days, but it fits my personality. It plays and sounds like a dream; and some of my best trumpet memories were played using this horn, some of them as recent as last week.
Frankly, I do not see myself playing anything else (modern or vintage) and if anything ever happened to it, I’m not sure I’d keep playing. It just makes me happy when I play it, in a way that no other horn does. _________________ 1975 Olds Recording trumpet
1997 Getzen 700SP trumpet
1955 Olds Super cornet
1939 Buescher 280 flugelhorn
AR Resonance mouthpieces
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zaferis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Posts: 2333 Location: Beavercreek, OH
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Bach Strad, 37 bell.. on my 3rd currently, a 19037 "Anniversary".
Tone, Clarity of articulation, & consistency throughout the notes I know how to play. _________________ Freelance Performer/Educator
Adjunct Professor
Bach Trumpet Endorsing Artist
Retired Air Force Bandsman |
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Yamahaguy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 3992
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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The right tool for the job...both with horns and mouthpieces-
Hard to beat a Benge or Calicchio for commercial stuff.
I'm really liking the Del Quadro for playing in church, and
a 40's Olds Super for some smokey jazz!
But I recently got a Scodwell that I'm messing around with too,
this is just too much fun! |
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Craig Swartz Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 7770 Location: Des Moines, IA area
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Schilke B3L (Bb)
Yamaha 1st Gen Chicago C
Yamaha 946 (C rotor)
Schike P5-4
Schilke E2 (Eb/D)
Bach 184 Cornet
Lots of other stuff I don't play much but have lying around |
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thefish1 Regular Member
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 32
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:15 pm Post subject: What horn do you primarily and why? |
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My primary horn is a vintage 1972 King Silver Flair. It is built better than any "super horn" of today and it runs circles around anything that is out there. It slots well and it is a very versatile horn able to play anything from classical to jazz to solo work. It works for me. "In my opinion." _________________ Vintage 1971 KMI King Silver Flair 1055t
1992 UMI King Silver Flair 2055t
Giardinelli 7VM / 7F gold rim
Vintage 1965 King Cleveland Superior Cornet
Vintage 1965 King Herald Trumpet
Vintage 1977 Benge Flugelhorn #5 Bell
Vintage 1918 KING Liberty 1050 |
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cbtj51 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2015 Posts: 725 Location: SE US
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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I have considered all of the Bbs in my signature as favorites at one time or another based on the requirements of my current gigs. I have been traveling much over the last few months and as those requirements change, I have various combinations of horns available for daily use!
If there was only one horn for me to use for my Bb choice, it would be my NY7! I do use my Bach CL more often than anything else for most of my performance situations though, and it is a wonderfully joyful instrument to play. I do practice very often with my Bach 184 Cornet and get substantial pleasure from that one as well!
I would say that I am most thankful for all of the horns at my disposal, and find no need for anything else.
Life is short, find the Joy in it!
Mike _________________ '71 LA Benge 5X Bb
'72 LA Benge D/Eb
'76 Bach CL 229/25A C
‘92 Bach 37 Bb
'98 Getzen 895S Flugelhorn
'00 Bach 184 Cornet
'02 Yamaha 8335RGS
'16 Bach NY 7
'16 XO 1700RS Piccolo
Reeves 41 Rimmed Mouthpieces |
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Jaw04 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 31 Dec 2015 Posts: 900 Location: Bay Area, California
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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The Yamaha 8310ZII.
I'm a huge fan of the Z trumpet ever since I played my friends in college in 2009. He ended up dropping out of music school and selling it to me. I really liked how it looked, felt, responded, and sounded right away.
I still have that horn he sold me, and also got the second generation which is my main horn for all types of gigs. I've played a few different horns over the years intermittently, but the sound and ease of playing of the Shew has always been unmatched for me. I always feel at home on it and the sound resonates with me. I know that I get a special sound on the Shew that I haven't found on other horns, and it's a sound that is not chained to one type of music. It's just a warm, soulful, lively sound. I play it in every kind of situation. Tons of wedding bands, salsa, jazz, brass quintets, funk, classical recitals. I don't see myself ever switching off it unless they make a 3rd generation. |
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p76 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 1070 Location: The Golden City of OZ
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah interesting to think about...for many years I only played a Yamaha 634, because that was the only trumpet I had, so it appeared in Orchestra, Concert Band, Rock/Pop, Big Band, whatever I was doing at the time. For Brass Band, it was whatever the Band gave me, so usually a Globe Stamp Sovereign.
Then I got older and had money...over the years I've had several Olds (Studio, Super), Other Yams (732, 6335).
You can see in my sig what I own now, but I pretty much only play three of those horns for gigs - the others are "funtime" horns mostly for home use.
For Brass Band I use the Shepherd's crook Ambassador - really and truly one of the great cornets. Spent a long time looking for one, and I'll never get rid of it.
For Big Band and amplified stuff I use the Kanstul 1001 with my ACB mpc. Really light and responsive, with a great bright tone and quite a bit of cut-through - a really great horn.
For Classical and such I use the Kanstul 700 - it is such a great horn - solid, but with a really clear sound that blends easily, and nicely mpc sensitive. These horns are real sleepers....
Cheers,
Roger _________________ Bb - Selmer Radial, Yamaha YTR634, Kanstul 1001, Kanstul 700.
C - Yamaha 641.
Cornet - Olds Ambassador A6T, Besson 723, Olds Ambassador Long.
Flugel - Kanstul 1525
Mpc. - ACB 3CS, ACB 3ES, Curry 3BBC, Kanstul FB Flugel |
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maynard-46 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Oct 2002 Posts: 1845 Location: GEORGIA
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:39 pm Post subject: what horn do you primarily play and why |
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Yamaha lacquered Shew Gen II. It will do anything I ask of it.
Butch _________________ TRUMPE: YAMAHA Lacq. "Shew Gen II" / Legends .585 "CatMaster" Top / KT "TKO" BB / Reeves #5.75 Sleeve.
FLUGELHORN: ADAMS Custom "F1" / Legends .585 "CatMaster FL. |
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Lawler Bb Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2002 Posts: 1140 Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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CarolBrass Andrea Giuffredi Model.
Most versatile trumpet I have owned. I'm a freelancer for a living. My playing is probably 70% commercial, but I teach a lot of private lessons, play in a brass quintet, and do a fair amount of church work. Soul, funk, rock, salsa, merengue, big band lead, small group jazz, broadway shows, classical, etc. Change your approach and your mouthpiece (if necessary) and you can play anything.
I've owned several Bach 37s, 72*, 43*, Eclipse Medium Classic, Yamaha 8335LA Gen 1, Schilke S42HD, Schilke S32, Lawler 25H, Yamaha 6320 (my backup), Benge 3X+, Olds Super, etc. Not sure why the CB AG is better than all of these (for me), but it just is. _________________ Eric Sperry
www.ericsperry.com
www.facebook.com/EricSperryTrumpet/
www.instagram.com/milwaukeetrumpet/ |
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Subtropical and Subpar Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 May 2020 Posts: 627 Location: Here and there
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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For me, it's pretty evenly split between my Bach 72 bell for concert bands and other settings that require a Bachy sound, and my Kanstul 991 for jazz and lead playing. I've had my Bach for nearly three decades and now it like the back of my hand, and it blends into sections of Bachs and Yammies as it should, but damn that Kanstul and its medium bore are efficient. It gets the nod for the long gigs - I can play it comfortably for hours longer than the Strad.
Secret love is my Connstellation cornet, which I would play everywhere if I could. There's just something about the feel of it... it's like an old-school Mercedes-Benz: built like a tank and designed to last lifetimes. _________________ 1932 King Silvertone cornet
1936 King Liberty No. 2 trumpet
1958 Reynolds Contempora 44-M "Renascence" C
1962 Reynolds Argenta LB trumpet
1965 Conn 38A
1995 Bach LR18072
2003 Kanstul 991
2011 Schilke P5-4 B/G
2021 Manchester Brass flugel |
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kurth83 Regular Member
Joined: 21 Oct 2021 Posts: 73
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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I am a Schilke fan, especially love the sound of their C's, and the efficiency and responsiveness across their entire lineup (and their valves...).
for Bb's it's a B6 (for light work) and for heavier work an X4.
for C's it's a C6 (for light work), and for heavier work a CX4.
pic p5-4BG
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trickg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 5682 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:32 am Post subject: |
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I tend to be a one-trumpet guy - whatever trumpet I'm currently playing is my go-to trumpet. Right now, in light of the fact that soon I have to give the Shires Model B back to the National Guard before I retire in a couple of months, I'm back on my Jupiter 1600i.
It's a good trumpet in a lot of ways - it slots well while maintaining flexibility, and the sound is great if I'm playing in a classic rock band. It has a nice solid core of sound as well, although the character of sound isn't particularly well suited for classical playing.
There are two notes on this trumpet that I distinctly dislike. The 4th line D is very flat, and the 1st ledger B natural is sharp. Most of the time I can get by with that and I don't mind it.
A trumpet that has intrigued me a bit in reading about it, although I have never personally played one, is the Yamaha 8310z. I've read that this horn, although designed as a lead horn and for playing jazz, is actually a great all-around trumpet. There are at least two people in this thread saying the same thing. It has me intrigued enough that I'm probably going to look into getting one. _________________ Patrick Gleason
- Jupiter 1600i, ACB 3C, Warburton 4SVW/Titmus RT2
- Brasspire Unicorn C
- ACB Doubler
"95% of the average 'weekend warrior's' problems will be solved by an additional 30 minutes of insightful practice." - PLP |
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Brassnose Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Mar 2016 Posts: 2053 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Trickg, you may indeed like the Z. I playtested it a few times and was intrigued by the variety of sounds I could get. Only thing that took me getting used to is that “going full throttle” felt very different compared to the Bach I have been playing for 30 years. Cool looks, too, withe the Schilke lookalike design. _________________ 2019 Martin Schmidt eXcellence
1992 Bach 43GH/43
1989 Kühnl & Hoyer Model 15 flugel
1980/2023 Custom Blessing Scholastic C 😎
1977 Conn 6B
1951 Buescher 400 Lightweight
AR Resonance, Frate, Klier |
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Lawler Bb Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2002 Posts: 1140 Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:51 am Post subject: |
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trickg wrote: | A trumpet that has intrigued me a bit in reading about it, although I have never personally played one, is the Yamaha 8310z. I've read that this horn, although designed as a lead horn and for playing jazz, is actually a great all-around trumpet. There are at least two people in this thread saying the same thing. It has me intrigued enough that I'm probably going to look into getting one. |
If I wasn't happy with my CarolBrass AG, I would very likely be on a 8310ZII or 8335LAII. Spent a few minutes with an 8310ZII a few years ago and was extremely impressed. One of the best production horns out there. _________________ Eric Sperry
www.ericsperry.com
www.facebook.com/EricSperryTrumpet/
www.instagram.com/milwaukeetrumpet/ |
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jeirvine Veteran Member
Joined: 29 Apr 2022 Posts: 337 Location: Baltimore, MD USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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For orchestra, my trusty 1968 Bach 239.
For most everything else my Olds Recording usually gets the nod. It just feels effortless - like riding a bike that "disappears under you." _________________ 1932 King Silvertone Artist Bore
1945 Buescher 400
1946 Olds Super
1947 Olds Super Cornet
1948 Couesnon flugelhorn
1951 Olds Special
1956 Martin Committee
1964 Olds Recording
1968 Bach 329 C
1996 Bach 37 |
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Jaw04 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 31 Dec 2015 Posts: 900 Location: Bay Area, California
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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trickg wrote: | I tend to be a one-trumpet guy - whatever trumpet I'm currently playing is my go-to trumpet. Right now, in light of the fact that soon I have to give the Shires Model B back to the National Guard before I retire in a couple of months, I'm back on my Jupiter 1600i.
It's a good trumpet in a lot of ways - it slots well while maintaining flexibility, and the sound is great if I'm playing in a classic rock band. It has a nice solid core of sound as well, although the character of sound isn't particularly well suited for classical playing.
There are two notes on this trumpet that I distinctly dislike. The 4th line D is very flat, and the 1st ledger B natural is sharp. Most of the time I can get by with that and I don't mind it.
A trumpet that has intrigued me a bit in reading about it, although I have never personally played one, is the Yamaha 8310z. I've read that this horn, although designed as a lead horn and for playing jazz, is actually a great all-around trumpet. There are at least two people in this thread saying the same thing. It has me intrigued enough that I'm probably going to look into getting one. | Fourth line D and fourth space E are still flat on the Shew |
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trickg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 5682 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Jaw04 wrote: | trickg wrote: | I tend to be a one-trumpet guy - whatever trumpet I'm currently playing is my go-to trumpet. Right now, in light of the fact that soon I have to give the Shires Model B back to the National Guard before I retire in a couple of months, I'm back on my Jupiter 1600i.
It's a good trumpet in a lot of ways - it slots well while maintaining flexibility, and the sound is great if I'm playing in a classic rock band. It has a nice solid core of sound as well, although the character of sound isn't particularly well suited for classical playing.
There are two notes on this trumpet that I distinctly dislike. The 4th line D is very flat, and the 1st ledger B natural is sharp. Most of the time I can get by with that and I don't mind it.
A trumpet that has intrigued me a bit in reading about it, although I have never personally played one, is the Yamaha 8310z. I've read that this horn, although designed as a lead horn and for playing jazz, is actually a great all-around trumpet. There are at least two people in this thread saying the same thing. It has me intrigued enough that I'm probably going to look into getting one. | Fourth line D and fourth space E are still flat on the Shew |
Those notes are low on a Bach too, but the 4th line D on the Jupiter is so low that when I first got it I would sometimes split up to the next partial in my attempts to lip it up. _________________ Patrick Gleason
- Jupiter 1600i, ACB 3C, Warburton 4SVW/Titmus RT2
- Brasspire Unicorn C
- ACB Doubler
"95% of the average 'weekend warrior's' problems will be solved by an additional 30 minutes of insightful practice." - PLP |
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