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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:32 am Post subject: |
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^^^^^ _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Thomson New Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2023 Posts: 3 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:05 am Post subject: |
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F.E. Olds Nut wrote: | I play Schilke instruments almost exclusively (ignore my username) and the Schilke i32 is an excellent all-around trumpet.
If you are leaning towards Schilke and want a versatile trumpet for your son the i32 would be a great choice for a horn to take him through high school, college, and beyond. |
Many music school teachers recommend the Schilke trumpet. They are really high quality. And they are really easy to play for beginners. One of my classmates in college wrote the perfect essay based on a letter from Birmingham Jail https://samplius.com/free-essay-examples/letter-from-birmingham-jail/ Everyone liked it so much that the college administration decided to make a musical on it basis. When selecting musical instruments for the student orchestra, the Schilke instruments were the best.
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9028 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Dayton wrote: | No way to know what is a good match for your son, but I'd say that . . |
I'm just speaking philosophically here and certainly don't mean to offend anyone, but I read this constantly on TH and I harken back to my own student days, when you got ~A~ horn and did your best with it.
I played a cornet in Jr. H.S. and paid no attention to what brand it was. It was just a cornet. Later, I got a Connstellation, which I played in H.S. and part of college. ~A~ horn. In college, switched to a Severinsen (although in retrospect, even that probably wasn't necessary) and finished college with that and then played it professionally for decades. But it was still ~A~ horn and I never got into obsessing over this horn or that. Mouthpieces, too. Most of my colleagues had the same experience.
My point is, IMO, we spend way too much time micromanaging these finite possibilities as opposed to just getting any good horn and mouthpiece and making the most of it. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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stuartissimo Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2021 Posts: 988 Location: Europe
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:33 am Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | My point is, IMO, we spend way too much time micromanaging these finite possibilities as opposed to just getting any good horn and mouthpiece and making the most of it. |
Not saying you're wrong, but that's primarily looking at it from a technical perspective. Most of us could probably make any horn that's mechanically fine work just fine (insofar our ability allows of course). But the joy and ease that comes from playing an instrument that's 'just right' is not something to just brush off as irrelevant imho. The trumpet player that walks around with a big fat grin on their face is one that practices daily, and stays motivated to keep playing for years. And having a cool trumpet can definitely contribute to that. I know many pros view their horns as 'mere tools'; they can afford to think that way, but it's not something I envy personally...I like my big fat grin every time I open up my trumpet case. _________________ 1975 Olds Recording trumpet
1997 Getzen 700SP trumpet
1955 Olds Super cornet
1939 Buescher 280 flugelhorn
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9028 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:36 am Post subject: |
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..... _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
Benge 3X Cornet
Adams F-1 Flghn
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stuartissimo Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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You can generally tell by the look on their face. _________________ 1975 Olds Recording trumpet
1997 Getzen 700SP trumpet
1955 Olds Super cornet
1939 Buescher 280 flugelhorn
AR Resonance mouthpieces |
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 12664 Location: Gardena, Ca
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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stuartissimo wrote: | You can generally tell by the look on their face. |
Having seen the look on both of my kids faces when I saw them at home with their instruments they must have hated their instruments.
Or maybe it was due to my making them practice.
I’m afraid I agree with Kehaulani.
Even if Stuartissimo is right, how can a beginner or intermediate player know how to audition and communicate what they like and don’t like about the horns? They simply don’t have the frame of reference or vocabulary to suss it out and express it. How many beginners are going to hear the partials being slightly off causing extra work to bring those notes in tune?
Would finding the easiest to play instruments for a player be best, sure. |
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chef8489 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Aug 2011 Posts: 858 Location: Johnson City Tn
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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Don't rule out a Bach 72 bell. It is by far my favorite bell Bach makes. Another one to consider is the Bach Artisan. It would sit in between the 37 and the 43.
You should also consider S.E Shires horns. They make excellent horns. The A bell is close to a 37, a B bell is close to a 43 and the C bell is similar to the 72 bell. I like the CMW. It's a light weight body with standard weight 72 ish bell. _________________ Current horns
2023 Bach 19072G/43 pipe with 1st trigger
1966 H.N. White King Silver Flair
1965 H.N. White King Super 20 Sllversonic Symphony 1st trigger |
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