Large bore horns

ramado24@clarkston.k12.mi · Regular Member Joined: 19 Dec 2023 Posts: 28

Does a large bore trumpet make it easier to play high notes? I have a medium bore and it feels snuffy in the upper register.
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falado · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:54 pm Post subject:

Hi, this is a yes and no. I’ve played large and medium bore horns for lead: Benge 6X (was my favorite), Wild Thing, Benge CG, Besson Meha (.470) on the large side and V~Raptor (Stomvi, another fav), Jupiter XO 1601i (Ingram), Callet Sima (flame thrower). I found you need a balance between the mouthpiece rim cup and backbore and the horn, oh and lots of practice, flex, CG SA, etc.

Mouthpiece, I went from a small cup and backbore to a Monette B4 something or other and it’s bigger, backbore and cup and guess what, same upper register, bigger sound, more endurance. It made me think more about aperture, oops could be a useful key, air, and tongue level.

If your horn plays stuffy for you, changing things with the mouthpiece may help, but I would also start with a good tech at Osmun or Landress and a PVA, blueprinting. I also found that changing tuning slide, semi round or round on a Bach helps open up the upper register.
I forgot to mention, now I’m playing everything on a Thane Performance, red brass 72 bell. It’s a medium large bore.
Just some thoughts.
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herringbur · New Member Joined: 16 May 2023 Posts: 4

It has a larger backbore and cup, as well as the same upper register, greater sound, and better endurance. It made me consider aperture, which could be a valuable key, air , and tongue level. rainbow obby

Andy Cooper · Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:58 pm Post subject:

In your case a large bore trumpet might be easier if you want to stick with your present mouthpiece.

Or you could just try a different mouthpiece. You are using the Yamaha Shew Lead which has a small throat and small backbore. Why not try a Yamaha 14A4A and see if things open up a bit. The 14A4A is still a lead mouthpiece but a bit more open.

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kalijah · Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:42 am Post subject:

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Christian K. Peters · Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:52 am Post subject: Large bore horns

Hello all,
Large bore horns have a nice open feeling. For me, I need a bit of resistance somewhere when I get to the Eb and above. I had a Calicchio L3/9 that really played great, but was just too big. I currently have a Schilke B3 that plays equally as well. My B2 just has enough to blow against to make a difference in the upper range. The F and G pops out easier.
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kehaulani · Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:12 am Post subject: Re: Large bore horns

dershem · Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:51 pm Post subject:

I've played on a lot of horns, and have always found it's a matter of balance. A larger bore horn can give a lot more depth and texture to the notes, but high register is a matter of balancing the horn and mouthpiece and chops to get the air flow to where the higher registers don't take quite as much effort, or give too much blowback. Some resistance supports the air column enough to resonate, instead of just sucking the air away from you.
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