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BudBix Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 519 Location: United States
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:28 am Post subject: Shallow cup with a lot of rim bite |
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Can anyway offer opinions on a mouthpiece that has a medium shallow to shallow cup with a rim that has a pronounced bite, preferably wide. I have a lot of lip engagement in the cup and looking for something along these lines to counteract that. |
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Chadwick Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 7:51 am Post subject: |
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EDIT: I misunderstood what you were asking previously, so I'm just going to say that in addition to the recommendations below this post, you might try the MARCINKIEWICZ E13 C. FINDLEY.
Cheers!
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RussellDDixon Heavyweight Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2014 Posts: 835 Location: Mason, OH
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:02 am Post subject: |
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"Shallow cup" is relative; however, I second the motion to start with trying a few Marcinkiewicz Mouthpieces. The Shew might work and comes in four depths in terms of cups. Many variables involved such as exact inner diameter for you; cup angles (i prefer a V cup); size of drill; shape of backbore etc. Used mouthpieces listed on here would be a good start as well. Is your preferred inner diameter a 7C ? 3C ? 1C? using bach parameters. _________________ Schilke X3 Bb trumpet
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Gonzalez Veteran Member
Joined: 09 May 2010 Posts: 275 Location: Norway
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:37 am Post subject: |
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I will recommend a pretty new mouthpiece, Bájoc Lead from bajocmusic.com. Fantastic rim, good bite, and a new cup design that really makes the high register easier. At least for me. The sound is also unmatched anything I’ve played before … and that is probably 90% of the pieces out there!
I use a Lead 3, with a typical 3/14 rim! Absolutely worth checking out! _________________ Van Laar OIRAM light I
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Bájoc mouthpieces Lead and Pops |
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BudBix Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 519 Location: United States
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 10:13 am Post subject: |
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I may have been somewhat vague but I'm trying to be purposely so. I don't want someone to discount a recommendation. With mouthpieces you never really know until you try them. I will offer I've been playing at a amateur to semi-professional level for 30+ years.
Thanks for responding!!! |
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Andy Cooper Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Nov 2001 Posts: 1882 Location: Terre Haute, IN USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Parduba comes to mind first. Very sharp undercut but a wide rim.
Standard Wedge mouthpieces. While you don't feel the bite at the top or bottom of the mouthpiece, the sides have very sharp undercuts.
Maybe Warburtons - they tend to go almost straight down after the bite rather than sloping in. You might also talk to them about their Anchor Grip rim.
https://warburton-usa.com/pages/faq
Scroll down to "What is an Anchor Grip top? Do I need one?"
This is supposed to be for players with "thick or fleshy lips". I don't know it that would counter act your lip engagement.
Lots of cup choices and a zillion backbores plus all of Ken Titmus' line up. |
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Gonzalez Veteran Member
Joined: 09 May 2010 Posts: 275 Location: Norway
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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BudBix wrote: | I may have been somewhat vague but I'm trying to be purposely so. I don't want someone to discount a recommendation. With mouthpieces you never really know until you try them. I will offer I've been playing at a amateur to semi-professional level for 30+ years.
Thanks for responding!!! |
English is not my main language, so instead of recommend, check them out, is what I meant! Good stuff in several sizes, and good bite on the Lead-rims! Also pictures with comparison to other known brands 👍🏻 _________________ Van Laar OIRAM light I
Van Laar OIRAM Ack
Bájoc mouthpieces Lead and Pops |
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Robert P Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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I see Andy Cooper already mentioned Parduba. A Jet-Tone T1A is another if you can find one. Also a Jet-Tone Studio B but the rim is very different - more of a round/fat shape.
Though I've got two different models I'm not all that familiar with the Jet-Tone line - I stumbled across the T1A by random happenstance in a music store years ago and liked how it felt. Someone gave me the Studio B on a gig with an oompah band when I discovered I'd left my mouthpiece in my car (I had been buzzing on it driving down the road) at a girlfriend's house, she drove us to the gig. An older guy just happened to have it in his case and didn't want it. It was a wrong fit for me in every way a mouthpiece could possibly be and I struggled through the gig - lol.
Looking at the mouthpiece comparator might reveal other Jet-Tones with similar profiles. _________________ Getzen Eterna Severinsen
King Silver Flair
Besson 1000
Bundy
Chinese C
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Chinese Rotary Bb/A piccolo
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Ronnman Veteran Member
Joined: 09 Aug 2019 Posts: 421 Location: SE Louisiana
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Another nod to the Parduba and Harry James model mouthpieces, which are really shallow, have a wide comfortable rim with good bite. See the pic of a couple of Parduba mouthpieces I own below, showing the cups.
Ron
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JeffM729 Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 444 Location: Parrish, FL
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:05 am Post subject: |
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I would recommend Patrick mouthpieces with the M or S cup. They have a good sized undercut that keeps one from bottoming out. The use the comfort rim which does have a sharp edge. There is also a flat and round rim as well. |
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lopesfelix Regular Member
Joined: 28 Oct 2021 Posts: 14 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: Shallow cup with a lot of rim bite |
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BudBix wrote: | Can anyway offer opinions on a mouthpiece that has a medium shallow to shallow cup with a rim that has a pronounced bite, preferably wide. I have a lot of lip engagement in the cup and looking for something along these lines to counteract that. |
Hi. I hope you are doing fine.
Look for Schilke 7B4, Bach 10 3/4CW. Large rim and sharp bite. |
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