Mouthpiece change

ALETRUMPET · Regular Member Joined: 30 Jun 2022 Posts: 79

I ask for advice on a mouthpiece similar to the Bach 3C CNC, but with a slightly smaller diameter and a slightly less sharp edge.

Andy Cooper · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:16 am Post subject:

Expensive - Reeves 42M

Less so - Maybe a Stork 4C or 4D.

It depends on what makes a rim feel "sharp" to you.

You might consider the Yamaha Shew Jazz. While it is about the same as a Bach 3C there are some slight changes in the rim that might make it feel "softer". The backbore is a little tighter so the whole package might feel smaller to you. They are not too expensive - about $55 sometimes with free shipping.

- Schilke 12B4, Schilke 10B4 (These have larger throats and backbores so they might might be more tiring for you even though they are smaller.)

ldwoods · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:33 am Post subject:

Yamaha 14B4 GP works wonders for me.
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RC Horn · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Mouthpiece change

Jacko1235 · Regular Member Joined: 18 Nov 2017 Posts: 34

A Bach 6C, to me, feels like a downsized 3C and I find the rim more comfortable than a modern 3C. The Curry 6 line is modelled on the Mt Vernon Bach 6 rim (different to the 6C). While it is smaller it feels very similar on the face but with a flatter rim.

giakara · Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:04 am Post subject:

+1 for a Reeves 42M , pricey but a huge upgrade.

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kehaulani · Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:17 am Post subject:

Andy Cooper · Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:32 am Post subject:

It's always tricky when a player wants a less sharp edge - bite.

The Reeves has the rim high point a little closer to the outside - so you don't feel the "bite" as much.

The Stork has the high point closer to the bite (which makes it feel smaller), but slopes down at a more gradual angle.

For some players you could keep the rim the same but reduce the undercut and the "bite" would feel softer.

So the 6C and Yamahas have nice rims but seem to go straight down a little more into the cup after the bite - to me that makes them feel sharper - but I have a lot of lip intrusion into the cup. A player with little lip intrusion might think they were great.

Sorry ALETRUMPET - you will need to demo several different mouthpieces. Start with the ones in the posts above.

Riojazz · Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:53 am Post subject:

It gets harder:

add Warburton 4MC and 4MS to the list of possible candidates.

Also GR66M and 66MS.

Also Yamaha 14B4.
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Richard III · Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:00 am Post subject:

The same rim that is a little smaller in diameter will feel not as sharp. Your lips are hitting the rim at a different angle. The difficulty is also in playing brands where the rims are different for different sizes. Better to start with a brand that is consistent thoughout the diameter sizes.
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plankowner110 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Posts: 3620

Schilke 14B or Yamaha 14B4
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Jon Arnold · Heavyweight Member Joined: 07 Jan 2002 Posts: 2026

ACB 3C is a nice mouthpiece.

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Brassnose · Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:01 pm Post subject:

Josef Klier USA pieces. Affordable and much more comfortable than Bach pieces but keeping the general Bach style and feel.

https://www.jk-klier.de/en-gb/mouthpieces/trumpet-flugelhorn--cornet

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Louise Finch · Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:04 am Post subject: Re: Mouthpiece change

Bandcity · Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:03 am Post subject:

I am a total amateur, so take this as such. I find my Curry 3C to be my most reliable mouthpiece. By that, I mean that I can sometimes coax a bit nicer sound from a Bach 1 1/2 C and a Stork Vacchiano 5C but for a long session, the Curry stays constant. The Curry is a bit brighter than my 1970s Bach 3C. I also have the Curry 3 FLD flugel piece and the Curry 3C TC (Trumpet/Cornet). The 3C TC has the deep Cornet cup and gives a softer tone which can be nice when playing lyrical studies. I play a Wick 3 for cornet but have been tempted to get a Curry 3 cornet as well.
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