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Richard III
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 Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:31 pm Post subject: Curry Mouthpieces |
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I'm looking for an alternative to the Curry M cup that I already have. It works but it is a little lacking in control. Very easy to jump octaves, but rapid phrases I would like more precision if that makes sense. Maybe I should say better slotting? Below are two alternatives from Curry's website.
Star Cup: The Star cup is a more bowl-shaped mouthpiece that provides a sparkling tone and crisp attacks. Also medium in depth, it favors commercial work.
Z Cup: The Z cup is often preferred by lead trumpeters and those who play the higher piccolo trumpet parts. The rim and undercut give support in the upper register. Big sound, rather than edgy, is characteristic of this cup.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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I use the 3M. and it works for me, from low F# to E above high C but I am not a stickler about much.
Never tried the star. I bottom out on the Z. Tried it a couple times for a couple weeks and it never came together for me. |
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krell1960
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: Curry Mouthpieces |
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| Richard III wrote: | I'm looking for an alternative to the Curry M cup that I already have. It works but it is a little lacking in control. Very easy to jump octaves, but rapid phrases I would like more precision if that makes sense. Maybe I should say better slotting? Below are two alternatives from Curry's website.
Star Cup: The Star cup is a more bowl-shaped mouthpiece that provides a sparkling tone and crisp attacks. Also medium in depth, it favors commercial work.
Z Cup: The Z cup is often preferred by lead trumpeters and those who play the higher piccolo trumpet parts. The rim and undercut give support in the upper register. Big sound, rather than edgy, is characteristic of this cup. |
richard,
i would recommend the 600 series C cup. it should do exactly what your looking for, but can still light up, when needed. provided you are using a 600 series m. the star cup works as described though. great all around mouthpiece for commercial/R and B sound.
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Richard III
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the quick response. I don't do well with really shallow mouthpieces and the bottoming out comment above makes me a little worried about the Z cup.
It looks like the Star might be the way to go.
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zaferis
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Star would be a good one to try.. more commercial in tone, I like the Star much more than the M cup.. (M & Z cups are the two that I don't use). Note that the Star is set up with a x10 backbore vs. the M cup which is a 10 backbore. So not only the shape of the cup is different.
I'd also suggest going in the other direction.. his C cup is excellent. If you search you can find a C-S which is a little shallower than a C (but deeper than an M) and on an X10 backbore.
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| zaferis wrote: | | Note that the Star is set up with a x10 backbore vs. the M cup which is a 10 backbore. |
Maybe it used to be different sometime in the past, but according to the current website info, the M (ZM, actually) comes with the x10 backbore just like the Star.
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I seem to remember some Curry mouthpieces extending a little more into the receiver - reducing gap a bit compared to a Bach. Why not try the "paper" trick to see if more gap would make things a little crisper.
Different backbores can have a big effect too - so a Curry top cut and threaded could give you a lot of possibilities. |
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Hey Richard, I have a “3*.” that I can send you if that diameter works for you. Private message me if interested.
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Richard III
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| mattdalton wrote: | | Hey Richard, I have a “3*.” that I can send you if that diameter works for you. Private message me if interested. |
Got me thinking. I generally play in the 5-7 range.
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Richard III
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Okay, now for a new issue. Everyone is out of Curry 7 star mouthpieces. Any alternatives anyone can recommend?
Update: I found a site that had one. I put in the order.
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Richard III
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Update on the Curry Star mouthpiece.
The Star gives me just what I was looking for. Notes are more secure and the distance between them feels slightly larger. Interestingly, it would seem the tone is slightly less bright than the ZM. Range is slightly less but it seems to be improving. I'm going to stay with the Star as it really provides everything I need.
Thanks to everyone for all the imput.
And I got mine before the price increase. 
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Richard III
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Update on the update. The Star was fine but I got sort of tired of its tone. It sort of forced a characteristic tone on me that was a little too in the commercial zone.
I really liked the tone and reponse of the Curry P on cornet. According to the Curry site, the DE trumpet mouthpiece has the same cup as the P cornet mouthpiece.
The DE cup for trumpet has a very pleasant sound. Nice response and good slotting. Today is the first day on it. One thing that is nice, the approach is the same as the P on cornet, so there's no acclimation when I switch off between the two.
Also, to respond about insertion depths. The Star inserts a little more than the DE, M and BC mouthpieces. Why? No clue.
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