New Bach flugel horn being developed?

[Louise Finch]

Hi

In checking the availability of Bach 183 flugel horns in the UK for someone, I found the following:

Last one! This line is discontinued.

Last remaining UK stock. A new Bach flugelhorn model is due for release in 2024.

Taken from:

https://www.rosehillinstruments.co.uk/p/183L/flugelhorns/vincent-bach/vincent-bach-183-flugelhorn-lacquer

I see that the Bach 183 is no longer on the Conn Selmer website, the only flugel being the Conn Vintage 1.

https://www.connselmer.com/instruments/brass/cornets-and-flugel-horns/5637169422.c

Does anyone know about the replacement Bach Stradivarius flugel horn? Will it be a 185?

All the best

Lou
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Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs

[AndyLott]

[Louise Finch]

Thanks very much, Andy. I obviously lol hadn't checked.

Do you know anything about the new Bach flugel in development?

Take care and best wishes

Lou
_________________
Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs

[Louise Finch]

So, the Bach Stradvarius numbering system is:

180 - Bb Trumpet
C180 - C Trumpet
181 - American style cornet
182 - Old flugel with a cornet wrap
183 - Flugel
184 - Short Model cornet
185 - Herald Trumpet
186 -
187 -
188 - Bass Trumpet

I wonder whether the new Bach flugel will be a 190 series, so maybe the 193.

Take care and best wishes

Lou
189 - Long Bell Eb
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Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs

[huntman10]

The Bach catalogue numbers do occasionally get "recycled". The 190 number recently used was originally the small bore (0.401") Eb/D trumpet which usually had the 304 bell.
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huntman10
Collector/Player of Fine (and not so fine) Brass Instruments including
Various Strads, Yammies, Al Hirt Courtois, Schilkes,
Selmer 25, Getzen Eternas, Kanstuls (920 Pic, CG)
Martin Custom Large Bore, Lots Olds!, Conns, etc.

[Louise Finch]

[AndyLott]

[Louise Finch]