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donovan
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 Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:48 pm Post subject: TCE/Superchops is Misunderstood... |
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I don't know if it's from Callet's sensational sales tactics, or some of the available Youtube content, but by and large, I think most people, myself include up until recently, don't have a clear understanding of how groundbreaking this teaching really is.
The best resource for those wanting to learn is this forum, but it's not what it used to be in terms of traffic or contributors (thanks to Kyle for keeping the flame alive!).
What can we do to turn this around?
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JayKosta
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: TCE/Superchops is Misunderstood... |
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| donovan wrote: | ...
What can we do to turn this around? |
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A good start would be links to items that provide:
understandable, concise, helpful information about how a player 'physically does' TCE, or 'what physical effects' TCE is supposed to induce.
If such items are available, I'd certainly pursue them - even if questionable 'physics' is mentioned, as long as the above items are present (what I call 'hidden gems' or 'kernels' of information).
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Richard III
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Videos showing someone doing it well and sounding musical.
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peanuts56
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Ralph Salamone posts a lot on YouTube.
He plays a little at the beginning of each video. Pretty much plays the same thing each video.
He’s basically trying to convince everyone to buy the mouthpiece he sells. Claims everyone should play it. One size fits all according to him.
Rich Cohlquin has a YouTube channel and Facebook page. Much more low key than Ralph and not a huckster. |
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Steve A
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| Richard III wrote: | | Videos showing someone doing it well and sounding musical. |
Peter Masseurs was one of the principal trumpets in the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra for years and years, and was definitely an extremely musical player. He also studied with Callet, and played his instruments. (Although it's worth noting he was already a highly accomplished and prominent player before TCE was developed.) Others here know much more about the relationship between these two than I do, but he is certainly an example of a top notch player who endorsed Callet's ideas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKP_355G5aE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJI3x6Z1Nag |
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| Richard III wrote: | | Videos showing someone doing it well and sounding musical. |
Herb Smith - Rochester Philharmonic
He demonstrates some Arban Characteristic Studies, some Bach excerpts, and some playing on the Callet D trumpet.
https://www.youtube.com/@herbtrumpet/videos
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<<most people, myself include up until recently, don't have a clear understanding of how groundbreaking this teaching really is.>>
Definitely groundbreaking for me. After working diligently on mid-20th century techniques for decades with highly acclaimed teachers, I was convinced that trumpet playing was hard, really hard. I've always loved the trumpet, but it's much easier to love now that it's not a battle to play. I'm sure that despite his passing, Jerry's teachings will continue to make inroads. |
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matthes93401
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I've been following the YouTube Trumpet Thoughts channel, wondering if it the Reinhardt or TCE schools of instruction might help me conquer some of my own range and endurance challenges (as serious amateur enthusiast).
Is there a list of TCE instructors? I'm in the Sacramento area, but I'd imagine the instructors are primarily outside California and utilize Zoom/Teams/Skype. Thanks! |
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donovan
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Speaking about misunderstanding, the word "bevel" when referring to the tongue is something I probably misunderstand.
Is the bevel referring to the curling over of the tip of the tongue from the upper teeth down to the lower lip, or a "V" shape that is meant to be formed as the center of the tongue drops down to let the compressed air escape.
The V shape acting as a tunnel (or funnel) for the air to escape. |
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donovan
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Both things happen, but the bevel is referring to the tongue coming over the teeth and contacting the bottom lip. It also acts like a spring to keep the teeth apart.
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