Shallow cup with a lot of rim bite

BudBix

Can anyway offer opinions on a mouthpiece that has a medium shallow to shallow cup with a rim that has a pronounced bite, preferably wide. I have a lot of lip engagement in the cup and looking for something along these lines to counteract that.

Chadwick · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 7:51 am Post subject:

EDIT: I misunderstood what you were asking previously, so I'm just going to say that in addition to the recommendations below this post, you might try the MARCINKIEWICZ E13 C. FINDLEY.

Cheers!

RussellDDixon · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:02 am Post subject:

"Shallow cup" is relative; however, I second the motion to start with trying a few Marcinkiewicz Mouthpieces. The Shew might work and comes in four depths in terms of cups. Many variables involved such as exact inner diameter for you; cup angles (i prefer a V cup); size of drill; shape of backbore etc. Used mouthpieces listed on here would be a good start as well. Is your preferred inner diameter a 7C ? 3C ? 1C? using bach parameters.
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Gonzalez · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:37 am Post subject:

I will recommend a pretty new mouthpiece, Bájoc Lead from bajocmusic.com. Fantastic rim, good bite, and a new cup design that really makes the high register easier. At least for me. The sound is also unmatched anything I’ve played before … and that is probably 90% of the pieces out there!
I use a Lead 3, with a typical 3/14 rim! Absolutely worth checking out!
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BudBix · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 10:13 am Post subject:

I may have been somewhat vague but I'm trying to be purposely so. I don't want someone to discount a recommendation. With mouthpieces you never really know until you try them. I will offer I've been playing at a amateur to semi-professional level for 30+ years.

Thanks for responding!!!

Andy Cooper · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:47 pm Post subject:

Parduba comes to mind first. Very sharp undercut but a wide rim.

Standard Wedge mouthpieces. While you don't feel the bite at the top or bottom of the mouthpiece, the sides have very sharp undercuts.

Maybe Warburtons - they tend to go almost straight down after the bite rather than sloping in. You might also talk to them about their Anchor Grip rim.
https://warburton-usa.com/pages/faq
Scroll down to "What is an Anchor Grip top? Do I need one?"
This is supposed to be for players with "thick or fleshy lips". I don't know it that would counter act your lip engagement.

Lots of cup choices and a zillion backbores plus all of Ken Titmus' line up.

Gonzalez · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:50 pm Post subject:

Robert P · Heavyweight Member Joined: 28 Feb 2013 Posts: 2596

I see Andy Cooper already mentioned Parduba. A Jet-Tone T1A is another if you can find one. Also a Jet-Tone Studio B but the rim is very different - more of a round/fat shape.

Though I've got two different models I'm not all that familiar with the Jet-Tone line - I stumbled across the T1A by random happenstance in a music store years ago and liked how it felt. Someone gave me the Studio B on a gig with an oompah band when I discovered I'd left my mouthpiece in my car (I had been buzzing on it driving down the road) at a girlfriend's house, she drove us to the gig. An older guy just happened to have it in his case and didn't want it. It was a wrong fit for me in every way a mouthpiece could possibly be and I struggled through the gig - lol.

Looking at the mouthpiece comparator might reveal other Jet-Tones with similar profiles.
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Ronnman · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:01 pm Post subject:

Another nod to the Parduba and Harry James model mouthpieces, which are really shallow, have a wide comfortable rim with good bite. See the pic of a couple of Parduba mouthpieces I own below, showing the cups.
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JeffM729 · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:05 am Post subject:

I would recommend Patrick mouthpieces with the M or S cup. They have a good sized undercut that keeps one from bottoming out. The use the comfort rim which does have a sharp edge. There is also a flat and round rim as well.

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