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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2024 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are "upstream" and "downstream" embouchures used in Stevens' pedagogy?
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2024 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi herbievantetering

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Stevens Costello is not a useful system


I am curious to know why you have resurrected (Today Easter Sunday in Orthodox Calendar..) a thread 11 years old only to refute it? It feels like the Dog that didn't bark in the Night.
Cheers Steve
PS Feel free to use the word "Elementary" in your reply.
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2024 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:
Are "upstream" and "downstream" embouchures used in Stevens' pedagogy?

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Stevens writes about 'aiming the air up', but I don't think he gets into determining the actual direction of air flow.
He also doesn't directly associate the direction of the 'aiming' with the distribution of upper / lower lip rim position (as is sometimes done regarding Reinhardt terminology).

My feeling is that Stevens has an emphasis on controlled lower lip rim pressure and jaw position - and that is used to accomplish 'aiming the air up'.
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2024 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JayKosta wrote:
kehaulani wrote:
Are "upstream" and "downstream" embouchures used in Stevens' pedagogy?

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Stevens writes about 'aiming the air up', but I don't think he gets into determining the actual direction of air flow.
He also doesn't directly associate the direction of the 'aiming' with the distribution of upper / lower lip rim position (as is sometimes done regarding Reinhardt terminology).

My feeling is that Stevens has an emphasis on controlled lower lip rim pressure and jaw position - and that is used to accomplish 'aiming th
e air up'.

Where do you direct your air when playing F and G above high C. If you can demonstrate this we might see and understand how it's done and hear how it's supposed to sound. It would clear up a lot of questions.
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