Mouthpiece and age

[ALETRUMPET]

I used to play a Bach 3C, now I switched to the Yamaha BSJazz because it's easier, but I don't really like the sound. Too mushy. I preferred Bach, which however has too strong an angle and is more tiring to play at my age. Has anyone had the same problems? Which mouthpiece did you choose?

[chase1973]

If the angle of the bite is now too sharp on your Bach, you can simply have somebody like Ken Titmus, whom I recommend, alter the rim of your old Bach piece. You can tell him specifically what's going on and like a fine medical Dr, he can fix the problem or offer additional options. Give him a call 1-407-335-7293

[Richard III]

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Go to your local music store and check out the different used mouthpieces.
Have you ever tried a 5B or 5C mouthpiece?
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[mograph]

Have you checked the mouthpiece comparator? Here's a 3C vs. a Schilke 15C4.

https://trumpet.cloud/mpc/index.html?mpc1id=VA001700&mpc2id=VB012400&backcolor=blue
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[ldwoods]

Have you tried any Schilke or Yamaha 4 rims? Compare the Bach 3C to Yamaha 14B4, might be what you are looking for.
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[cheiden]

If you thinking of going smaller that's hard with Bach because the Bach 5, 6, 7... feel entirely different. To my lips the Yamaha "4" rim feels fairly similar to the Bach 3C shape. And with Yamaha it's easy to go smaller while preserving the general feel. The 14B4 or 13B4 might be worth trying. My kids both really like the 13B4. And these are cheap and easy to try.
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[nieuwguyski]

I played Reeves 43W rims for over 20 years. The soft bite makes the rim feel a bit bigger than a Bach 3C.

Now that I'm 60 they don't work anymore. I tried the Bobby Shew Jazz for a while and it sounded fine to me, but felt too big (as in, it wore me out).

I'm now playing Curry 5 rims. Definitely a sharper bite than the Reeves W, but not as bad as the Bach 5 rim. I believe Mark Curry designed his 5 rim with a bite more like a Bach 3C. They're working for me.
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[Andy Cooper]

Before you start a mouthpiece safari, try the "paper" trick.

https://bobreeves.com/blog/this-one-simple-trick-can-make-trumpet-easier/

Depends on the trumpet but Yamaha mouthpieces may insert farther into the receiver of some trumpets reducing the "gap". You might perceive that as "mushiness". If more gap helps, you could have the backbore altered.

The backbore on the Yamaha is also different from the standard Bach #10. You could always have a Yamaha top cut and threaded for Warburton backbores and purchase a Bach #10 backbore or equivalent.

[zaferis]

First of all I think linking this to "age', though we are all continuously getting older, is unnecessary.
After time you're realizing that the 3C rim is too sharp for you, a not uncommon feeling.

Yamaha 14B4 or 16B4 - will be a little softer bite to the rim
Schilke's I find to be even softer
Curry's 3C was the solution for me (coming from a Bach 3C), a Bach shaped cup with a little less bite. They feel slightly bigger on my chops but an aspect of the rim shape too. Curry's have the added bonus of having the exact rim shape throughout the range of cups (3M, 3C, 3*, etc all have the rim)
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[ALETRUMPET]

Could I solve the problem with a large bore Mouthpiece like Monette? Or make it worse?

[zaferis]

[JayKosta]

Is the BSJazz also tiring to play, or is it just the sound that you don't like?
Have you tried any mouthpieces that are similar in size to Bach 7C.
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[Seymor B Fudd]

In itself an interesting topic - mouthpiece versus ageing.

I thought while getting older that maybe my lips should shrink (as do muscles all over), get flabby or what now - but that didn´t happen. Getting older, for me nota bene, has ment that I have to practice more or at least more "intelligently" that I have in younger days.
I do practice a lot more but this is also related to the fact that I, nowadays, possess my time, work not"disturbing".

So I still play the kind mouthpieces I always did. Same type of rim, diameter etc etc. (Schilke rims 3/4 and diam. round 17,00mm)
Still I can´t play DW mouthpieces (amongst other variables the alpha angle).
But that´s me - variables such as roundness/flatness of rim, the diameter and a host of other variables might be significant!

Hence - from my point of view, all other variables constant except yourself - how about testing practicing more? Not to get superchops but to re-juvenate your chops?

And of course the standard advice: go see a teacher/have your way of playing examined. Maybe a new regimen would do it??
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[Vin DiBona]

Some players do benefit from a slightly smaller mouthpiece as they age and their capacity changes.
Bud Herseth went back to his original NY Bach 7 sizes late in his career.
I played larger mouthpiece in my youth (a Schilke 19 and a GR/Haefner 1HX Signature before settling on a Bach 3C) but after two major surgeries which cut my abs in half and the fact I am now 73, I have gone to smaller mouthpieces - Stork 4C and a Stork VM6 - which make big difference in ease of playing.
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