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Hornie Veteran Member
Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 353 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Just curious what the Monette owners' views are.
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veldkamp Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Dec 2002 Posts: 668 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:30 am Post subject: |
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I own a B993, the one Wynton Marsalis and Ryan Kisor play with the Lincoln Center. Great horn, really versatile. Tuning is very good, nice sound, good valves, a bit overpriced though. _________________ www.erikveldkamp.com |
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loudog Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Nov 2001 Posts: 1444 Location: Hastings, NE
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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I own a Monette Chicago C trumpet. By far the best C trumpet I've ever played...intonation, response, slotting...this is the real deal. The sound is great...not big and tubby like many people seem to think Monette's are. I have no problems blending with Bach and Yamaha sections. I can still get that burn on the sound...I love this horn!
Bought mine for $3000, which I don't think is too expensive...it's well worth it!
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etownfwd Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 468 Location: Pottsville, PA
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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I don't yet have in my posession, but I am anxously awaiting delivery of a Monette PRANA B993 in July. I love the sound I get from Dave's horns. But I prefer the sound of the PRANA instruments rather than the standard horns. The standard horns felt a little more diffuse and dull to me. Honestly, though, go try a horn at the shop. Get an opinion for yourself. They will be happy to let you play, even if you are not planning on buying one. Yes, though they are pricey. But if they have the sound you are looking for, then money somewhat becomes secondary.
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trumpetchops Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 2644
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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I have a B993 and I love it.
I also have a 900 series E flat.
I also have on order a 900 series D. I will have it in a couple of weeks. This will be the first Monette short bell D trumpet they made.
After I receive my D trumpet I will probably get a lighter C.
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jazzbebopswing Regular Member
Joined: 15 Nov 2001 Posts: 60 Location: MD
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Are any of your Monette owners professionals? If not, what kind of playing do you do that allowed you to justify the purchase?
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veldkamp Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Dec 2002 Posts: 668 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:09 am Post subject: |
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I play prof. lead in Europe with all major bands overhere (like the Metropole Orchestra). It's not a problem to blend with a Monette, you guys are focusing to much on the instruments. Not the instrument but mostly the player itself is the deciding factor of blending, swinging, timing, tuning etc.
The instrument is just 10% of the sound, 20% the mpc and the rest the player itself. (that is for a good player !)
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trumpetchops Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 2644
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:34 am Post subject: |
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I have a day job and play at night.
I play a lot of shows, church stuff, weddings, concert band in the summer (MPTF) some big band lead and sub with the local Symphony.
My Bach trumpet is old and I was told that it needed a lot of work so I started looking for a new horn. It's funny, when I was looking I didn't see any negative stuff on here. It was only after I placed my order that I started reading all the bad stuff.
After receiving my B flat trumpet it played so well that I decided, "why am I fighting the horn. I just want to play" (other keyed trumpets)
So I bought a Monette E flat.
The B flat made a big difference and the E flat made a huge difference.
You can get trumpets for less but if you forget the competaveness of other trumpets and buy one that plays well you will understand.
I am lucky that I make enough money in my day job to have the fortune to play Monette. |
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jamesfrmphilly Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 1376 Location: the north philadelphia ghetto
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:38 am Post subject: |
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have any of you ever measured the bore size? the leadpipe?
let's do some reverse engineering here. _________________ 1946 Martin Committee, Bach 5V |
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etownfwd Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 468 Location: Pottsville, PA
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, hang on though James, why is it important to know the numbers on a Monette horn? If Bach measures at the base of the tuning slide and Yamaha measures at the 3rd valve slide, why does it really matter if you know what bore a horn is? I don't care about numbers, I care about sound and musicality. If it plays really well and I enjoy the sound, who cares what number is stamped on the side, or what finish is on the horn. I don't understand why everyone wants to reverse engineer a Monette horn. Damn, just let the man build horns. I don't care if Jupiter makes the valves and Amati makes the bell... (Well, yeah I do.. ) If it plays the way I want it to play then that's all that matters.
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trumpetchops Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 2644
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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If I gave you all the numbers that would only tell you what I have. I went to the shop and played for them. I was there all day. Maybe they are all the same, How would I know?
I can't imagine the trumpet playing any better.
They are starting from scratch each time so why not make each horn for each person? |
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loudog Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Nov 2001 Posts: 1444 Location: Hastings, NE
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:42 am Post subject: |
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I agree...Monette's don't play as hugely open as most people think...my horn is a little more open than a Bach, but not that much.
By the way, I'm a performance major, going to graduate school soon (meeting with people right now). I gig a LOT, and make a lot of money doing it...that's how I afforded my horn (which wasn't really that expensive).
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RajaTrumpet Regular Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 38 Location: Brasilia, DF - Brazil
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Edited _________________ Set a course.
Take it slow.
Make it happen.
Last edited by RajaTrumpet on Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:31 am; edited 2 times in total |
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maynard-46 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Oct 2002 Posts: 1845 Location: GEORGIA
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:03 am Post subject: |
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RajaTrumpet,
Please tell me that the #7, #4, #0 DO NOT refer to the throat sizes on you Monette pieces?!?
BW _________________ TRUMPE: YAMAHA Lacq. "Shew Gen II" / Legends .585 "CatMaster" Top / KT "TKO" BB / Reeves #5.75 Sleeve.
FLUGELHORN: ADAMS Custom "F1" / Legends .585 "CatMaster FL. |
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RajaTrumpet Regular Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 38 Location: Brasilia, DF - Brazil
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Hi maynard-46,
Your suspects were right: the numbers #0, #4, #7 do refer to the mpcs throats. I donīt have problems playing on big mouthpieces with large throats. have you tried one of those before?
Thadeu _________________ Set a course.
Take it slow.
Make it happen. |
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FlugelFlyer Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2002 Posts: 1450 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Dang, that's about big enough for me to poop in!!!
...nevermind . Anyways, no knocks, just having fun. How it works for you is what counts. _________________ Trumpet: Bach 180LR, 72 bell
Mouthpiece: Warburton 3XD/KT |
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Mikeytrpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 5028 Location: Richfield, Minnesota
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:52 am Post subject: |
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I am a former Monette owner. I needed those large throats (#1, 0, etc,) in order to get the heavy horn to resonate.
but it did not feel like I was blowing tons of air through the horn......... |
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richj50 Veteran Member
Joined: 02 Dec 2001 Posts: 370
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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I play on an STC-7 C trumpet (like a 997) and also own a 900 series C cornet. Over the years I've owned a couple other Monette C trumpets and Bb trumpets. I'm not a professional level player by any means (too many other demands on my time as a nonmusic professional, daddy of two and my other nonmusic hobbies and interests), but I thoroughly enjoy playing on Monette equipment. It's easier to play and creates a sound that is a lot more pleasing to my ears. The horns aren't cheap but they are worth it to me. I don't compare their cost to other trumpets. Instead, I compare their cost to what I get out of them. To me, I'd rather drive a car that cost $5K less and have my Monette horn to play on. Trumpets are cheap anyway. My piano cost 4X more than any Monette trumpet I've bought and I'm a better trumpet player than pianist. It's all about enjoyment to dollar ratio in my book. |
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RajaTrumpet Regular Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 38 Location: Brasilia, DF - Brazil
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Rich,
do you still have the Raja Piccolo? You bought it from Heinz Schwebel, didnīt you?
Take a look at his site: http://www.heik.ufba.br/
Thadeu _________________ Set a course.
Take it slow.
Make it happen. |
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richj50 Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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No, I sold it through Mike Thompson. The mouthpiece never quite worked for me (I prefer a 1-5 rim), so I decided to let it go. |
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