Good Reasonable Trumpets

mheffernen5 · Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:03 pm Post subject:

I am still on the quest trying to find a good trumpet that is reasonable in price. I priced a Bach Stradivarius from a couple of mail orders and $1,500.00 was a sale price and the full price is $2,300.00 or close to it. Does anyone in the U.S. have a Yamaha Allegro or YTR 5335? I thought maybe those would be lower priced, but I am not sure.

pocketrocket · Regular Member Joined: 19 Oct 2003 Posts: 64

I'm sure that there are many people on this site who could give you umpteen billion different companies to look at in as many price ranges. If you are limited by the amount you are willing to spend, it could help limit that selection a little.

By the way, the $2300 price tag is the list price set by Selmer, it makes it look like your saving a bundle, but I've (very limited experience) have never seen one for more than $1700. This is also the basic basic model, I'm not sure if a reversed lead pipe or different configurations will cost you more.

mheffernen5 · Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:46 pm Post subject:

Hi! Are Bach Omega good horns to upgrade to from a beginners trumpet?

trumpetmike · Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:51 pm Post subject:

If you are looking for great quality trumpets at good prices - check out the B&S range.
The Challenger II trumpets are superb value for money instruments and are now being played in many professional situations (was talking to a couple of London pro players last night, who have just changed their Strad Bbs for Challengers). I have had a couple of students purchase these in preference to Strads and I have been very impressed with their playability - definitely ones to consider.

bgwbold · Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:56 pm Post subject:

If you are going to stick with a Bach, I would consider a used Bach Strad over an Omega. You can find some pretty nice second hand horns if you are patient.

On another point, I have known a few people who paid retail or pretty close to list. Usually it is someone who is just getting back into playing and is too embarrassed to ask anybody for advice before making a purchase. Then he will come in with a shiny new horn and say something like I got a real good deal on this horn, 300 off list (or 2000). All you can do at that point is smile and say it sure is pretty.

Mike

mheffernen5 · Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:05 pm Post subject:

OK thanks. At least I am asking but what about Yamaha Allegros...in case I don't go with Bach.

Trptbenge · Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:20 pm Post subject:

If you are going with Yamahas go with a used 6335S - not quite the new Xenos but very good horns. Used horns, like the Strads, are great options. I don't know how much you want to spend but if you want to get a new horn you may check out the Besson International Series Trumpets - an excellent value. I don't know, with all thei financial problems, if the International is still being made. I do know you can still find them. Capitol Music in Montgomery Alabama (334-277-9990) still had a few about a month ago. If you call them ask for Darby. I have played ones that were as good as most any professional level horn.

However, I would like to reiterate that a good used professional level horn is a great option.

Mike

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bgwbold · Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:19 pm Post subject:

Mike, who is making the Internationals now? I think the Kanstul contract expired a year or so ago. The Internationals were pretty well regarded as an intermediate horn back when they were made at Kanstul, I just don't know who is making them now.

Mike

trumpetmike · Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:17 am Post subject:

If you do think of going for a used Yamaha 6335 (which is what I did when I was in a similar position), I would strongly recommend changing the leadpipe for one of Dennis Najoom's. I did this last year and it has made a huge difference to my playing - not just according to me but also my fellow trumpeters and even my students. The leadpipes are very reasonably priced and worth every penny/cent.
If you are after a pro level horn but without a pro level price tag, do look t the B&S instruments. Amazing value for money.

[ This Message was edited by: trumpetmike on 2004-04-14 03:17 ]

Capt. Z · Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:44 am Post subject:

I had the chance a few weeks ago to play a B&S Challanger I (not the II). It did have a nice warm tone, but for my preferances it had a little too much resistance. I personally prefer a more free blowing trumpet.

Does the Challanger II differ in that regard with the Challanger I?
And how would that compare to the Xeno and the standard Bach 37?

Thanks
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Trptbenge · Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:58 am Post subject:

Mike,

I am not sure who is making them now. I know that they had a huge back stock of New French Bessons for a while. Maybe the same situation existed with the international. I'll check around and see if I can find out who the manufacture is now.

Mike
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mheffernen5 · Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:32 pm Post subject:

thanks a billion

I would be most likely to stick to Bach & Yamaha though. I know strads are pretty sweet. But the person next to me has a Yamaha (for a loaner) and it is pretty nice too.

FREEBELLTRUMPET · Regular Member Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 33

Find a used Xeno 8335Rgs!!! I played one today...it was a lot of fun.

Martin

mheffernen5 · Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:32 pm Post subject:

Hi

Thanks for your comment about the Xeno. Did I mention I tried a Bach Strad? Pretty sweet. TTYL

mheffernen5 · Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:31 pm Post subject:

It's me again world...I was doing some reading on Yamaha Allegro and I have yet another question is there a difference between a 1 or 2 piece bell? Just asking oh and how do you find info about the Bach Omega?

mheffernen5 · Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:42 pm Post subject:

Hello world it's only me again...I thought I would say that I may take some advice and go for a Bach strad since I had an awesome trumpet lesson.