Shopping for a C trumpet

drtrumpet1 · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:22 am Post subject:

Good morning, all. I am shopping for a good C trumpet. I will be doing mostly chamber and orchestral playing. I have looked in to several models. I'd like to try a Bach 229/25H. I am also going to try a couple of Stomvi models. I have a contact to try the Stomvi horns, but where can I try others? I am in the Dallas, TX area.

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bftrumpet · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:43 am Post subject:

You can try horns from Dillon Music in Woodbridge, NJ. They will give you a week or so to play the horn, then you ship it back to them. Shipping costs between $15-20 to send it back. Check out their policy at http://www.dillonmusic.com. They have a nice selection and are great to work with. Good Luck.

Ben

vlbcw1 · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:22 am Post subject:

You might want to consider a Flip Oakes C trumpet. I just sold my Bach 239/25R (GH) because the intonation and sound quality was very unsatisfactory for me. I replaced it with an Oakes C and have been getting rave reviews from my peers. Don't know what kind of money you have to invest, but just wanted to drop in my two cents-worth. Happy horn hunting!

Regards,

Lori
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gruvertpt · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:44 am Post subject:

The WW/BW has 5 229's with the 25H pipe in stock in silver. Give their trumpet specialist a call at 800-348-5003, ext 2360.

Good luck!
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_dcstep · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:50 am Post subject:

Brook Mays has a broad selection of Bach Cs (229/239/sterling, etc). Talk to Roger Holmes at the LBJ store for someone that knows how to help you. 972-233-9633 Tell Rog that I sent you.

Dave
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drtrumpet1 · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:03 am Post subject:

Thanks for all the info. How much does a Flip Oakes C run? Is it more than the Stomvi lines?

Tom LeCompte · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:10 am Post subject:

The Flip Oakes C lists for $2700 in Silverplate. In general, these small production horns are not deeply discounted like. for example, Bach's. Often they are not discounted at all. Tom Turner is a dealer for them, I believe, and may have more accurate or up-to-date information.

A Bach C (again in silver) is probably in the $1500-1600 ballpark. Stomvi Elite is maybe $100 more, and if they have a C Master, it's a few hundred on top of that.

Cheers,

Tom

gruvertpt · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:36 am Post subject:

WW/BW sells the Bach C trumpet in silver for $1621.00
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Steve Gruver
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Bach 180s43--B-Flat
Bach 181s37--Cornet
Bach C180S239R--C
Yamaha 9610--D/Eb
Yamaha 9830 Custom--Piccolo
Blackburn leadpipes
Conn Wonder Cornet (c. 1902)
Conn 22B Trumpet "Symphonic" (c. 1927)

trumpetmike · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:09 pm Post subject:

Have you thought about attending the ITG Conference?

Not only will Bach, Yamaha, Stomvi etc be there with their instruments, but you will get the chance to try out Wild Things, Eclipse, Smith-Watkins, Besson, adapted instruments - the lot. Worth thinking about.

If youhave played a Bach and like the feel, have you considered a Xeno? Many people now seem to be using these, especially those that have been tamppered with by some of the better repairers. My local repairman (no use to you whatsoever) has adapted his Xeno to take a Bach leadpipe and it is just fantastic. For those of you attending ITG - look out for Will Spencer, he will be there somewhere, with golden trumpets.

mheffernen5 · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:31 pm Post subject:

I was going to say good luck and I have heard Zeus is a good C trumpet for some strange reason.

jtrumpet1983 · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:10 pm Post subject:

The Bach is always a good choice if that is the SOUND you are going for. When I went shopping for a C trumpet I tried a lot of horns. I was finally down to a Bach 25H/229 vs. a Yamaha Xeno. Both horns played very well, and intonation was pretty good for a C trumpet but the Bach won hands down for the sound. I could manipulate the sound easier and it had all of the colors that I was in search of. The 25A/229 and 25C/239 were just behind that for how I play. A small mouthpiece change can help some of the intonation problems by creating a better trumpet/mouthpiece balance. I found with a 24 Bach backbore or Schilke D backbore with a 26 or 24 throat can really help the sound, and makes the C, D, Eb and E in the staff easier to play in the center and in tune. That us my 2 cents. It doesen't matter what you end up with if it is what you like. WWBW usually has a lot in stock. Also try Tulsa Band instruments. I got a killer price on my Kanstul Flugel. Prowinds in bloomington had a great price for my C. just look around on the net. Good luck!

Justin Mabrey

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Eclipse Trumpets · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:18 pm Post subject:

Hi Mike

I've not Met Will at all, so i'll be sure to keep an eye open for him!

Are you attending also?

Regards

Leigh

trumpetmike · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:50 pm Post subject:

Leigh - oh yes - having failed miserably in finding a time when I can come up and play Eclipses in the UK, I am travelling to Denver to try them out!!

MUSICandCHARACTER · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:40 pm Post subject: