Bach Omega?

DaltonJames · New Member Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 7 Location: Florida

I am wondering what everyone's thoughts are of this horn.

musicalmason · Veteran Member Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 214

I knew a kid who played one, out played a lot of pro horns, but he was a good player, who sounded even better when he played my strad. its an intermidiate horn, Id say one of the better ones, but still just an intermidiate.

fuzzyjon79 · Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 5:38 pm Post subject:

It might not make any economical sense to buy a Bach Omega when you can find a good used Stradivarius for $500-$700.
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Getzenguy · Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject:

I am a fan of the Getzen 700's or one of the newer Benges, they are tanks, inexpensive and play well. Mark
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JasonHarrelson · Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 7:27 pm Post subject:

The Omega IS the Strad with the exception of one post brace and a fixed third slide ring. The leadpipe is slightly tighter than a 25 and everything else is the same. I have re-built a lot of Bachs and the 37's and Omegas play and sound the same once modified.

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Tom LeCompte · Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 7:57 pm Post subject:

Jason,
I thought the Omega had a two-piece bell. Am I mistaken?

Cheers,

Tom

mheffernen5 · Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 1:59 pm Post subject:

Tom, most student/intermediate trumpets are 2-piece construction like the Bach TR300, TR200, and yes the Omega. Also the Yamaha Allegro is a trumpet with 2 piece construction.

JasonHarrelson · Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:14 pm Post subject:

Yes, the Omega does have a two piece bell. However, testing on an oscilliscope in the lab has shown no difference in response or tone quality between one and two piece bells. Maybe we've all overlooked the fact that one piece bells still have a seam running up the entire length? We're working on a one piece bell that has no seam....it is formed through an electroplating technique molecue by molecue. I still don't know that this will result in any great benefit.

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WFUnix · Veteran Member Joined: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 433

"it is formed through an electroplating technique molecue by molecue"

Isn't this how Anderson makes the beryllium-bronze (copper) bells for Schilke?

Tom LeCompte · Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 4:29 pm Post subject:

Jason,

An oscilloscope is probably not the right instrument for comparing bells. An
oscilloscope works in the time domain. To compare sounds from different bells,
one would need to work in the frequency domain.

But that's just a technical point. My point is simpler - different
manufacturing technique means different bells. Maybe similar, but not
identical.

Cheers,

Tom

Getzen · Heavyweight Member Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 1924

Electroplating is how Anderson makes their copper bells. We use them as well. Also, our student line of instruments uses another type of seamless bell. The entire bell is formed from a single tube. Originally this was developed for use on professional trumpets, but we felt it fit better with the student line because they are so inexpensive. They play very well (not as good as a hand hammered bell) and are incredibly durable. Something very valuable in a student line horn.

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