Eb/D Trumpet

ejaime23 · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:25 pm Post subject:

Hey guys, I just sold two of my trumpets and I am now buying a Bach 256 C trumpet, and an Eb/D trumpet. Just wanted to know what you guys suggest for an E-fer. I prefer long bell, but I wouldn't mind some suggestions or someone convincing me to buy a short bell. I have a budget of about $1500 and I've had my eyes on a LeBlanc Arturo model or a B&S Eb/D horn, I've also taken a liking to the Eb/D Bach long bell horns. I'm open to all suggestions, and arguments as to why one bell is better than the other. Thanks a lot guys!!

bachstrad72 · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:11 pm Post subject:

I've had the Bach long bell for 6 months now and couldn't be happier, great horn.
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dbacon · Heavyweight Member Joined: 11 Nov 2001 Posts: 8592

I've played a Schilke E3L since 78 or so. Great trumpet, does whatever I put into it.

Jonny Boy · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:44 pm Post subject:

I'd also be interested in any info on the Bach 189 Eb/D. A local music shop here is doing a special deal on them.
Cheers,

Jonny Boy

bachstrad72 · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 5:06 pm Post subject:

I have the standard config. 239 C trumpet bell, EL bore which i think is .462, reverse lead pipe. Slides for D and Eb. Plays like a dream and has substance. I was a Schilke freak for a while, but it always felt like a toy to me, and never had the big sound i heard in my head. This Bach does.
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fuzzyjon79 · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 5:20 pm Post subject:

If I had the money I'd buy the Schilke E3L. Finest Eb/D trumpet I've ever played.
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trumplyr · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:50 pm Post subject:

I've got an E3L. It's a great horn for solo or quintet/chamber work, but to my ear, it's not suitable for orchestral work. Sounds too bright and small for my tastes.

I'd love to get a long bell Bach. I'd probably opt for the large bore model with 229 bell (same as my C), but I just can't afford any more horns right now. I'd have to sell something and I just can't bring myself to do that.

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fuzzyjon79 · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:51 pm Post subject:

trumplyr · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:56 pm Post subject:

You're right Jon. There was a thread about this a little while ago. I looked into it, but never followed up ( $$ ). There are a number of people / shops who do this conversion.
I seem to remember the someone highly recommended Dillon's for the job.
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trombapaul2 · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 8:08 pm Post subject:

I used to have an E3L but it was stolen a coupel of years ago. I replaced it
with the Stomvi Elite Eb/D and couldn't be happier. The E3L was a wonderful
instrument but never cared for it in orchestral settings. The Stomvi settles
right in with the rest of the group. I suppose I could have gone with a non
Beryllium bell or a C bell but $$$ was always an issue and frankly, at that
time, I would never have even considered altering a horn.

Paul
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RGale · Heavyweight Member Joined: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 2818

Ron Pinc in Chicago will put a Bach bell on a Schilke. Also, you might consider the Kanstul Eb/D which costs a lot less than the Schilke and has a slightly broader sound in my opinion. You can get those for about $1400, I think.

largo · Veteran Member Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 151

The Bach EL is actually .459 bore. They do make this trumpet in .462 bore - it will have EXL stamped on it. Haven't seen too many though.

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jotrpt · Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 3:09 am Post subject:

If you have the chance to get a used Benge Eb/D from the LA era (70's) or even before,
it might also be worth to consider. Though it's a short model (ML bore, with main tuning
slides for Eb and D), my one is very responsive with a rich and warm sound that can be
used either for solo/chamber or in many orchestral settings. Also I find the intonation not
as problematic as it is often said about short model Eflats. (I'm mainly using the Eb side.)

Jochen.