Tarnish prevention bag?

[DaveH]

Has anyone had any experience with these bags, and think they are worthwhile or effective?

They are advertised as being able to prevent tarnish simply by keeping the horn in the specially treated bag and putting it away in the case.

[hose]

I have had one of Roy Lawler's bags for about a month. I pull the bag over my sivler plated horn as it sits on a Hamilton stand when I am not using it. I'm too lazy to put it in a case. Since I have been using it, there has been no vsible tarnish. Under normal conditions I think this horn would have some tarnish on it by now.
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Dave Wisner

Picketts
Yamaha 6335RC
Yamaha 8335RS
Lawler Flugel
Kanstul cornet

[_Kanstul-Krazy]

We sell horn bags at our shop (no, this isn't a sells plug, honest). Anyways, we sell our bags as "non-treated" mainly because it can be used on either a silver played or lacquered horn. We also slide the bags down over the top of our horns when they are on trumpets stands out in our display area. I truely believe that if you keep the surrounding "air" off the horn when it's not in use you can really deter tarnish.

My question is, "What is that chemical that everyone claims to treat their horn bags with?".
Seems funnie to me no one ever really says?????
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Lon A. Heim
Kanstul Model 1600 WB
Kanstul Model 925 w/ Copper Bell

[_Happy Canuck]

I use one of the Bach bags for my silver horns: http://www.bachbrass.com/content/accessories/access.php?contents2=Selmer%20ZZ%20Bach%20Polishes,%20Polishing%20Cloths%20ZZ%20Gloves&id=191
Bach Tarnish Preventive Trumpet Bag
This tarnish preventive storage unit is specially treated to lock out all tarnish causing gases. Just zip instrument in bag and place both in case to help prevent instrument from tarnishing while stored.

Part Number 1890 - Bach Tarnish Preventive Trumpet Bag


The bags are made out of a product called Pacific Silvercloth

You can find more information here:
Society of American Silversmiths http://www.silversmithing.com/care.htm#Silver%20Storage
or purchase the cloth here: http://www.blanksfab.com/silvercloth.htm

And Lon, the last two sites explain how the cloth works.
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Bill

Olds Mendez, Recording, Super, Special & Ambassador trumpets/GR Butcher 65.6M
Olds Opera, Ambassador Shepherds Crook cornets/Sparx 4B
Olds L-12 Flug/GR Butcher 65.6FL
Schilke MII trumpet/GR Butcher 65.6M

[_Kanstul-Krazy]

Bill,

Thanks for those links! Some interesting info there.

Thanks Again,
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Lon A. Heim
Kanstul Model 1600 WB
Kanstul Model 925 w/ Copper Bell

[UsedBits]

As it turns out, I am having prototype anti-tarnish trumpet bags being made for my Bb, C, D/Eb and piccolo trumpets. They feature a contoured fit and velcro fasteners.

They are *not* gig-bags. Rather, one slips the trumpet in the bag and places it in one's case. Another use is to cover the trumpet for storage on a trumpet stand.

The bag is loosely shaped like this (top view, not to scale)

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A flap wraps over the bell and fastens on the side of the bag. The trumpet slides into the bag lead pipe first. When the trumpet is on its stand, the bag slips over the trumpet and provides protection from the tarnishing effects of air.

Pricing not yet determined. Send a private message to me if you're interested.

The initial prototype will obviously be tailored to my Benges and Stomvi piccolo. My D/Eb is shaped like a small 'normal' trumpet, not like a Schilke 'high' trumpet. My piccolo is shaped like a Schilke P5-4 and not like a Benge or Selmer piccolo.

As such, customers having horns shaped like the Benge or Selmer piccolo or Schilke 'high' trumpets might have to wait until I locate a local player owning one with which to pattern a prototype.

Again, send a private message if you're interested.
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aka Benge Loyalist
Benge Bb, 5x, ml #8162
Benge C, 2x+, mlp #7481
Benge D/Eb, ml #6579
Benge Flug, ml #17xxx
Stomvi piccolo, m15, #901885
Boston 3-Star 1 NE Plus Ultra LP #22019
Martin Committee #151322
Bach Strad (NY) 7-10-62, #2003

[ARB]

I use tarnish bags on all of my horns and I almost never need to polish them. I got the tarnish cloth from the fabric store and made them myself; it's a lot cheaper than the pre-made bags. I also use the bags when the horn is on a stand or in a case.
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Allen - 'Chops-in-Hotlanta'

00 Schilke S22
77 LA Benge 5X
63 Burbank Benge C

"It's what we think we know that keeps us from knowing"

[Paul Tomashefsky]

This may sound stupid.....BUT...Wouldn't a large towel or other type of "dry" non-abrasive cloth work just as well?

[hose]

[DaveH]