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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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I found these pictures at Thomas Stevens’ website
Thomas Stevens with Pierre Boulez
Los Angeles Philharmonic Trumpet Section (1967)
Robert DiVall, Irving Bush, Thomas Stevens, Mario Guarneri
_________________ Derek Reaban
Tempe, Arizona
Tempe Winds / Symphony of the Southwest
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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Significant Recordings of the Los Angeles Philharmonic
An Alpine Symphony, Zubin Mehta and the Los Angeles Philharmonic
My favorite recording of Strauss' Eine Alpensinfonie is the one by the Los Angeles Philharmonic from 1976, conducted by Zubin Mehta. I'm amazed at the power of this music. I am literally moved to tears every time I reach track 11 (Gefahrvolle Augenblicke Auf dem Gipfel). The power of the music is equally matched by the power of the orchestra. And it's more of a gentle strength, with no forcing or raucousness. I will have to say that the bass trombone player absolutely captivates my attention with his sound. His sound is so present and resonant through the entire piece that it grabs me, shakes me, and says, "listen up!" (Especially in track 11). The brass chords are so balanced with his amazing sound cutting through the orchestra.
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Derek Reaban
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WAKeele Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Very nice! Thanks for putting in the time for everyone's benefit!!! _________________ WAK
Ace Hardware Hoseophone w/heavy-weight funnel
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JackD Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Posts: 1436 Location: London, England.
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:38 am Post subject: |
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WOW, I just heard the LA Phil recording of Mahler 5 with Mehta from '77...
Gorgeous playing!
I've got a question for you Derek - your list shows 2 principal trumpet players for that period (Tom Stevens and Robert DiVall) - any idea who might be playing first in this recording?
Cheers,
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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Jack,
I'm guessing Robert DiVall. Maybe Mzony or johntpt would know? _________________ Derek Reaban
Tempe, Arizona
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bftrumpet Veteran Member
Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 181 Location: Arlington, TX
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:12 am Post subject: |
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I can't say with certainty but I believe that it is Tom Stevens playing principal trumpet on the LA Phil Mahler 5 with Zubin Mehta. |
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JackD Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:20 am Post subject: |
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I want to say it sounds like Tom Stevens, but I don't know Robert DiVall's playing at all...
Whoever it is sounds fantastic. |
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Ralph Sauer New Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:34 am Post subject: |
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I thought that I would add some information to this topic before I loose any more brain cells. Concerning the Mahler 5th, Tom Stevens played 1st on movements 1 & 2. After those movements were recorded, he had some kind of "around the house" accident and banged up his lip. As I remember, he was out of commission for a few weeks. Bob DiVall played 1st on movements 3 & 5. Another curiosity is that I played 1st trombone on movements 1 & 2 and Byron Peebles played 1st on 3 & 5.
As to the Alpine Symphony, Bob Divall played 1st trumpet. In an earlier post, Derek wrote--"I will have to say that the bass trombone player absolutely captivates my attention with his sound." The truth is it was me on third trombone with an 88H (adding the edge and sizzle) and Jeff Reynolds on fourth with a Minnick G-contra (adding the body and tone). Frankenstein? Frankenbone?
Bob DiVall was a fine gentleman with unbelievable accuracy, a sweet, lyrical style, and he NEVER forced. All qualities to strive for.
Cheers,
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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Ralph,
Thanks so much for taking the time to contribute on the Trumpet Herald. There's nothing like getting the information directly from the source! I knew there was something very special about that low trombone sound, and now I know why!
Years ago I was very fortunate to hear a master class that you gave at ASU (although I wasn't a student there). What a treat to hear you play in that environment!
On a separate note, I played with John Lofton for quite a few years with a brass quintet in Phoenix. I know how excited he was to get to join your section this past season!
Well, thanks again for your insights. It really adds to topics like this when lots of people get involved and contribute.
Take care, _________________ Derek Reaban
Tempe, Arizona
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JackD Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Ralph Sauer wrote: | I thought that I would add some information to this topic before I loose any more brain cells. Concerning the Mahler 5th, Tom Stevens played 1st on movements 1 & 2. After those movements were recorded, he had some kind of "around the house" accident and banged up his lip. As I remember, he was out of commission for a few weeks. Bob DiVall played 1st on movements 3 & 5. Another curiosity is that I played 1st trombone on movements 1 & 2 and Byron Peebles played 1st on 3 & 5.
As to the Alpine Symphony, Bob Divall played 1st trumpet. In an earlier post, Derek wrote--"I will have to say that the bass trombone player absolutely captivates my attention with his sound." The truth is it was me on third trombone with an 88H (adding the edge and sizzle) and Jeff Reynolds on fourth with a Minnick G-contra (adding the body and tone). Frankenstein? Frankenbone?
Bob DiVall was a fine gentleman with unbelievable accuracy, a sweet, lyrical style, and he NEVER forced. All qualities to strive for.
Cheers,
Ralph |
Thanks a lot Ralph! |
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ertatta Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:06 am Post subject: |
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mr. sauer-
i was wondering if we might be able to get some insight as to who played what on the mahler 3 with zubin from i believe '78 londonDecca. btw, your 1st mvmt. solo sounds fanastic. if you could answer the same question for the planets recording as well.
also, were you in the orchestra when the LAphil recorded with Leinsdorf a couple of albums on the Sheffield Labs label?? if so, i'm guessing that was Divall playing principal? btw, is mario playing 2nd on these recordings?
it's a real privelege to have you posting here and i look foward to reading your response! |
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Ralph Sauer New Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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All the times we have played Mahler 3rd, Tom Stevens never played the posthorn solo. Bob DiVall played it on the Mehta recording and Don Green did the solo on the later Salonen recording. Stevens always played the 1st trumpet part.
The Planets was done before my time, so I don't know for sure who played what.
I was on the two Leinsdorf direct to disc recordings (Wagner and Prokofiev) however. The trumpet section for both sessions was Bob DiVall, Irving Bush, Tony Plog and Malcolm McNab. I don't remember the reason both Stevens and Guarneri were not playing. I do remember the thrill of Bob diVall playing the high C at the end of the Romeo & Juliet. Direct to disc didn't allow any splicing, so we were all holding our breath to see if he would really go for it. He did, and the result was spectacular!! |
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MrClean Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Ralph Sauer wrote: |
I was on the two Leinsdorf direct to disc recordings (Wagner and Prokofiev) however. The trumpet section for both sessions was Bob DiVall, Irving Bush, Tony Plog and Malcolm McNab. I don't remember the reason both Stevens and Guarneri were not playing. I do remember the thrill of Bob diVall playing the high C at the end of the Romeo & Juliet. Direct to disc didn't allow any splicing, so we were all holding our breath to see if he would really go for it. He did, and the result was spectacular!! |
I was a freshman in college the first time I heard that recording. I didn't know whether to quit right then or there or what - probably my favorite high C ever recorded. Huge, vibrant - it just filled the whole room.
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MalinTrumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:16 am Post subject: |
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I believe the Bruno Walter Mahler 9 Columbia Symphony recording is actually the LA Philharmonic. I've never heard more beautiful playing than that by diVall in the Burleske. When this was first released on 33 RPM it came with a rehearsal recording.
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Ralph Sauer New Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:18 am Post subject: |
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I'm 98% sure that DiVall was using an Olds B-flat cornet for the Romeo & Juliet. That makes the high C even more amazing. |
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Derek Reaban Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Los Angeles Philharmonic Trumpet Section
Season.......Principal Tpt......2nd Trumpet.............3rd Trumpet...4th / Assoc. Princ
2007-2008....Donald Green.......Christopher Still...........Boyde Hood.....James Wilt
2006-2007....Donald Green.......Kevin Brown (Acting)...Boyde Hood.....James Wilt
2005-2006....Donald Green.......Kevin Brown (Acting)...Boyde Hood.....James Wilt
2004-2005....Donald Green.......Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....James Wilt
2003-2004....Donald Green.......Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....James Wilt
2002-2003....Donald Green.......Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....James Wilt
2001-2002....Donald Green.......Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Vacant (Subs)
2000-2001....Donald Green.......Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Vacant (Subs)
1999-2000....Donald Green.......Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Vacant (Subs)
1998-1999....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1997-1998....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1996-1996....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1995-1996....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1994-1995....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1992-1994....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1992-1993....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1991-1992....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1990-1991....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1989-1990....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1988-1989....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1987-1988....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1986-1987....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1985-1986....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1984-1985....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1983-1984....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green
1982-1983....Thomas Stevens...Rob Roy McGregor.......Boyde Hood.....Donald Green _________________ Derek Reaban
Tempe, Arizona
Tempe Winds / Symphony of the Southwest
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castonandon New Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:18 am Post subject: L.A. Phil-1977-Mahler 5-BOB DIVALL!!!! |
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[quote="JackD"]WOW, I just heard the LA Phil recording of Mahler 5 with Mehta from '77...
Gorgeous playing!
I've got a question for you Derek - your list shows 2 principal trumpet players for that period (Tom Stevens and Robert DiVall) - any idea who might be playing first in this recording?
Cheers,
Jack[/quote] |
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ertatta Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:43 am Post subject: |
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it is definitly tom stevens playing principal.. from what mario guarneri told me, who btw played 2nd on this recording, this was the way Mehta wanted it! |
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