John William all the way!

Welk · Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 4:50 am Post subject:

At school, we started a new type of concert last years and it is call "Music theme concert" This include of course, the band playing and also, a video présentation while we play. And as long a we went true our repertory(bad translation of the french word "Répertoire"), i discovered that John William is a genius... i arleady knew him for a lot of song...but trully, i could sa y that 80% of big movie music is written by john william. THis year, we wil have again another concert like that. Well if you have the chance to play some music song...try John William. Here are some title...
Harry Potter, Jurassic Pak, Star Wars, Robin Hood, Superman, Minority Report, ET....many more.

PS: James Horner is also a good one with Braveheart and Appolo 13
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Atomlinson · Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 10:03 am Post subject:

Please at least get the name correct. It's John Williams.

Andrew Tomlinson

jacethakidd · New Member Joined: 14 Aug 2002 Posts: 10

lol so he spelt his name wrong. big deal! hes human!

yeah my school plays a lot of john williams. im lead trumpet and i love playing his work:)

Nicholas Dyson · Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 1:08 pm Post subject:

John Williams is absolutely wonderful.... but Michael Kamen wrote the music for "Robin Hood". At least the 'Prince of Theives' version of it with Kevin Costner. That's wonderful writing too!
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PH · Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 1:19 pm Post subject:

Drummer Steve Houghton and the UNT 2 O'clock Band with guests, including trumpeter, Clay Jenkins, recently did an album of arrangements that Williams did as a young man of Gershwin tunes. They are fantastic and very unlike his more recent works. The original recording were by a band led by drummer Shelly Manne.

p.s. John Williams' father, Johnny Williams, was an obscure but very hip and swinging drummer in the '30s and recorded with Jimmy McPartland, Bud Freeman, Frank Teschemaker, et al.

Erin C · Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 4:32 pm Post subject:

I want Williams' job when I get older... muahaha. No, really, I'm serious!

Erin -iii<
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trumpetnerd7 · Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 5:01 pm Post subject:

Has anyone heard John Williams trumpet concerto? Apperantly he wrote one and Arturo performed it. Im curious as to what i sounds like? Anybody know of it?

scott cook

_PhilPicc · Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 6:31 pm Post subject:

scott, I have not heard of it but I would think with that combination it would be awsome. If you hear more about it let us know.

Big John Williams fan,
Phil
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trumpetnerd7 · Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 6:44 pm Post subject:

wow! I found a recording of it, its quite a good group. LSO with Arturo playing Williams trumpet concerto. here is the link to the website. I definately want this cd.
scott cook

http://www.denouementrecords.com/

kzem · Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 7:31 pm Post subject:

kzem · Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 7:43 pm Post subject:

Atomlinson · Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2002 9:52 am Post subject:

Yes.

See the article "The Trumpet Concerto of John Williams: From Commission to Concert" by Mary Thornton (International Trumpet Guild Journal, May 1997 pages 18 - 21. There are interviews with both Sachs and Williams.

Quote: "On September 26th, 1996, Michael Sachs, principal trumpet of the Cleveland Orchestra premiered the Concerto for Trumpet by John Williams with the Musical Director Christoph von Dohnanyi conducting."
Page 18.

Andrew Tomlinson

Webbsta78 · Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 5:33 pm Post subject:

Yes, John Williams is great to listen to. I watch movies now and get distracted by the music, and miss part of the movie. It is interesting to hear the influence of R. Strauss and Mahler (as well as others) in his work. There is a spot towards the end of 'Death and Transfiguration' that I like to call the Superman Chord

Jason

_trumpetgod_02 · Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2002 7:40 am Post subject:

Hey,

What about Danny Elfman ( sp? ). Crazy.........
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TrumpetJerry · Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2003 7:10 am Post subject:

tcutrpt · Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2003 11:28 am Post subject:

It's funny reading someone say that Mahler and Strauss "influenced" John Williams. I'd go farther and say that Williams took a lot of rhythms, harmonies, and melodic lines from very famous works and made them "his" own. I like Williams' music, but it seems obvious to me that he made a lot of his most famous pieces based on themes of other music! Call it what you will, but I don't quite agree with it.

Matt

kzem · Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2003 8:22 pm Post subject:

I remember listening to an interview with John Williams when he was doing the live Star Wars concert thing (with the movie clips playing on a huge screen) a few years back. He said (something like) he writes every day, and has a stack of manuscript paper for working themes and ideas to develop. This way, if he's ever hard-pressed for an idea, he has a small library of phrases to springboard off of. I think there are many phrases in that stack which he knows are good and that work well. These are also the ones that sound like Mahler, or Holst. They make for exciting, movie action-

Kurt Z

ZeroMan · Heavyweight Member Joined: 21 Jul 2002 Posts: 1112

Most film composers are/were heavily influenced by Mahler, Wagner, Respighi, Holst, etc. I feel it is a bit overboard to accuse John Williams of plagarizing many of his film music themes from those other composers. If anything, much of Williams's music shows the influence of Erich Korngold, who in turn was definitely influenced by Gustav Mahler.

Like any in-demand composer who has to work against deadlines, Williams has recycled a lot of his own material. I don't think there is anything terribly wrong with that; Handel and Vivaldi did it all the time too, as did othe prodigious composers from all eras. But after a while, their work sounds repetitive and stale. For example, Williams's music for the first Harry Potter film sounded a lot like Jurassic Park and A.I. It's tough to keep hammering out material which is completely original each time.

[ This Message was edited by: ZeroMan on 2003-01-03 01:02 ]